2025/26 David Moyes

[Toffeepot]

It would be unforgivable for this opportunity not to be grasped.

Imagine seeing all these talented managers go to clubs who are in no way shape or form as potentially successful as us.

TFG have to show they can move us on; keeping Moyes will destroy any credibility they have.

Oh you do love a bit of drama

 

[Little Ralphy]

Agree with all of this. We are a far more competitive team than we have been for some time. Fine margins in a number of games and with a some more quality we would be sitting higher. (We all know the positions we lack in)

Squad wise I would say we are a bottom half team. It’s possible we can finish top 8. For me that’s good progress.

"It’s not a bad run on paper if you had wins in it, but we haven't."

 

[Swartzy]

Surely hes in with a shout for manager of the year. They've been great. It helped he was already there as set piece coach I suppose but he's still suprised everyone except the Brentford players it seems

It definitely helped having been in the system but the hardest thing is moving from a player friendly coach to actually managing them.
Removing any personal friendship to being the boss isn't an easy thing..

 

[Juissi]

No, you're coming at it from an angle that the manager is completely faultless, which is quite the take. I don't hate Moyes, for the record, he's fine. My problem is that he's no better than fine and people tie themselves in knots trying to prove he's better than fine on all sorts of subjects. Transfers, for example.

For me it’s more about the alternatives than Moyes himself. I’m just not convinced we’re realistically in a position right now to attract a manager who’s genuinely more than fine.

That’s not me saying Moyes is perfect (far from it) or beyond criticism, just that the context of the club still matters. We’re only just starting to look stable again after years of chaos

 

[windymiller]

For me it’s more about the alternatives than Moyes himself. I’m just not convinced we’re realistically in a position right now to attract a manager who’s genuinely more than fine.

That’s not me saying Moyes is perfect (far from it) or beyond criticism, just that the context of the club still matters. We’re only just starting to look stable again after years of chaos

This is always the argument. That there's nobody better that we could attract. I just don't buy it. We pay our managers a top 20 salary in world football and we play in the most watched league in the world. We also apparently have money to spend on players. The idea that there isn't a talented and ambitious manager who sees us a potential staging post for a top job in football seems fanciful to me.

P.S. I'm really starting to loathe the word stability, it's increasingly being used as a euphemism for stagnation or being left behind. Nobody who advocates stability on here really seems to be able to define what they mean when they say it.

 

[Simon Buttle]

This is always the argument. That there's nobody better that we could attract. I just don't buy it. We pay our managers a top 20 salary in world football and we play in the most watched league in the world. We also apparently have money to spend on players. The idea that there isn't a talented and ambitious manager who sees us a potential staging post for a top job in football seems fanciful to me.

P.S. I'm really starting to loathe the word stability, it's increasingly being used as a euphemism for stagnation or being left behind. Nobody who advocates stability on here really seems to be able to define what they mean when they say it.

If Bournemouth can go from Iraola to Rose despite winning nowt and ultimately being far smaller than us realistically then I don't see the issue. Money talks at the end of the day. Some of our fans are just terrified they are going to lose their Moyes comfort blanket, they know not much else.

 

[JLW]

For me it’s more about the alternatives than Moyes himself. I’m just not convinced we’re realistically in a position right now to attract a manager who’s genuinely more than fine.

That’s not me saying Moyes is perfect (far from it) or beyond criticism, just that the context of the club still matters. We’re only just starting to look stable again after years of chaos

You know whats better than being stable, being successful.

You know whats better than finishing 10th finishing 5/6th
Winning a trophy is what our aim should be every single season regardless of the situation

When people say this stability thing it actually means im happy where we are.
Weve had stability for about 23 years of the last 30 years since we last won a trophy and about 7 years in the sh1t being uncomfortable and fearing relegation.

Stability is not what we should aspire to as Everton football club, im sorry but this mindset has to change.

 

[COYBL25]

Is anyone else struggling to keep up with all these Moyes threads, as I`m getting a bit confused tbh.

 

[JLW]

Is anyone else struggling to keep up with all these Moyes threads, as I`m getting a bit confused tbh.

I just see the M word then go hell for leather! haha

 

[COYBL25]

I just see the M word then go hell for leather! haha

Each one is like a mirror of the other

 

[Juissi]

This is always the argument. That there's nobody better that we could attract. I just don't buy it. We pay our managers a top 20 salary in world football and we play in the most watched league in the world. We also apparently have money to spend on players. The idea that there isn't a talented and ambitious manager who sees us a potential staging post for a top job in football seems fanciful to me.

P.S. I'm really starting to loathe the word stability, it's increasingly being used as a euphemism for stagnation or being left behind. Nobody who advocates stability on here really seems to be able to define what they mean when they say it.

I think the discussion often gets stuck on extremes. It’s not about Moyes being flawless or “the only option”, it’s about what actually fits the current state of the club.

We’re still in a phase where the squad isn’t built for a very rigid, high-intensity system from day one. That’s why I personally value managers who can adapt their approach to the players they have, rather than being fully locked into one ideology. Coaches like Bielsa, Iraola or Postecoglou have very strong identities, which can look brilliant when everything aligns, but they also require a very specific squad and a lot of time to properly implement.

And when people talk about “stability”, I don’t mean accepting mediocrity or standing still. I mean not constantly ripping things up and changing direction. And if we’re being honest, results-wise it’s hard to argue we’ve been regressing under Moyes compared to what came before him. That doesn’t make him untouchable, but it does suggest there is at least some foundation being rebuilt.

 

[DualityNSNO]

I think the discussion often gets stuck on extremes. It’s not about Moyes being flawless or “the only option”, it’s about what actually fits the current state of the club.

We’re still in a phase where the squad isn’t built for a very rigid, high-intensity system from day one. That’s why I personally value managers who can adapt their approach to the players they have, rather than being fully locked into one ideology. Coaches like Bielsa, Iraola or Postecoglou have very strong identities, which can look brilliant when everything aligns, but they also require a very specific squad and a lot of time to properly implement.

And when people talk about “stability”, I don’t mean accepting mediocrity or standing still. I mean not constantly ripping things up and changing direction. And if we’re being honest, results-wise it’s hard to argue we’ve been regressing under Moyes compared to what came before him. That doesn’t make him untouchable, but it does suggest there is at least some foundation being rebuilt.

So basically, Moyes is out of the question too - stubborn, in his own ways, knows better than anyone, plays favourites, rarely gives 'unknowns' a chance, etc.

 

[Pabbers]

You know whats better than being stable, being successful.

You know whats better than finishing 10th finishing 5/6th
Winning a trophy is what our aim should be every single season regardless of the situation

When people say this stability thing it actually means im happy where we are.
Weve had stability for about 23 years of the last 30 years since we last won a trophy and about 7 years in the sh1t being uncomfortable and fearing relegation.

Stability is not what we should aspire to as Everton football club, im sorry but this mindset has to change.

Nobody, targets Stability as THE goal, not 1 person.

We are just being realistic FOR NOW, how are so many just ignoring this ??!

We all want to win stuff, but you don't get to that position by sacking anyone who can't do it in the first season...you build something.
We barely have a functioning club, its been barely 12 months since we had massive financial issues and points deductions, and just getting back to being run properly.

Fans who are cautious are not less-ambitious than you, we all want to win.

Very very short memories of how bad it has been

 

[Clarky cat]

I think the discussion often gets stuck on extremes. It’s not about Moyes being flawless or “the only option”, it’s about what actually fits the current state of the club.

We’re still in a phase where the squad isn’t built for a very rigid, high-intensity system from day one. That’s why I personally value managers who can adapt their approach to the players they have, rather than being fully locked into one ideology. Coaches like Bielsa, Iraola or Postecoglou have very strong identities, which can look brilliant when everything aligns, but they also require a very specific squad and a lot of time to properly implement.

And when people talk about “stability”, I don’t mean accepting mediocrity or standing still. I mean not constantly ripping things up and changing direction. And if we’re being honest, results-wise it’s hard to argue we’ve been regressing under Moyes compared to what came before him. That doesn’t make him untouchable, but it does suggest there is at least some foundation being rebuilt.

Moyes has spent the whole season putting CBs at full back, central midfielders on the wing and at right back and KDH as a hybrid 10 so he can play his beloved 4231 formation at all costs ffs

 

[JLW]

Nobody, targets Stability as THE goal, not 1 person.

We are just being realistic FOR NOW, how are so many just ignoring this ??!

We all want to win stuff, but you don't get to that position by sacking anyone who can't do it in the first season...you build something.
We barely have a functioning club, its been barely 12 months since we had massive financial issues and points deductions, and just getting back to being run properly.

Fans who are cautious are not less-ambitious than you, we all want to win.

Very very short memories of how bad it has been

Sorry mate ive seen this many times posted by people, what are we waiting for?

So only when we finish 10th then 10th again and then maybe 9th we should go for it? We've established 'stability' then what?
It makes zero sense to me,

Meanwhile fans are forking out more than ever to follow this club.