2025/26 David Moyes

[JobForTheMoyes]

Fair enough, its the financial rules which have been in place over the last few years. Profit & Sustainability.

Those clubs with massive revenue streams like City, RS, chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal are allowed to sign the top players for big fees and pay them enormous wages

We dont have the same revenue so have not been allowed to spend as much.

The way around that is typically to:

1: Sign young players and develop them like Brighton or Bournemouth. E.g Garner and Branthwaite for us.

2: Sign undervalued players like Brentford. Like Ndiaye for us.

So, to your point if you remove signing young players then your only option is to find undervalued players.

Those clubs have sold to reinvest over and over again. If we had their success in both 1 & 2 above then we could have built low cost squads to compete at the top.

Hope that clears things up why posters (like me) want to see young players signed. Not to mention its nice to watch players develop as well of course.

This summer the rules change to 85% of revenue so as you can imagine we're still way behind the curve.

But we are signing young players. Dibling may not be ready yet, but I would imagine he’s working hard on his game. Remember, he’s a guy who is a bit more reserved and struggled in the past with a move away from home. Just give the guy some time to settle in and judge him when he’s properly acclimated.

Different people develop at different rates.

 

[st.domingo]

Someone posted this beards ago - still not sure what to make of it tbh

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Swartzy]

Not the greatest fan of stats, but is that table showing us above the sexy flowing football club Bournemouth for goals with more passes, and also them depending more on set pieces.

Then again shouldn't the table also include shorter sequences of passes, which would inturn show clubs that are quicker in transition on the break..

I like seeing us up the top, but you never get the whole story with stats. It's like people paint them how they want to see them..

 

[John from Bootle]

Then again shouldn't the table also include shorter sequences of passes, which would inturn show clubs that are quicker in transition on the break..

Not sure it would tbh. Not all moves start in your own half.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Not the greatest fan of stats, but is that table showing us above the sexy flowing football club Bournemouth for goals with more passes, and also them depending more on set pieces.


Then again shouldn't the table also include shorter sequences of passes, which would inturn show clubs that are quicker in transition on the break..

I like seeing us up the top, but you never get the whole story with stats. It's like people paint them how they want to see them..

Davek will be raging!

 

[Swartzy]

Not sure it would tbh. Not all moves start in your own half.

Well if you're looking at 9plus passes from an interception in there half, that's a long process..
If you're looking at that rate from the keeper, that could be like 6 passes between Pickford, Tarks and keane and than a long kick up field.
If you're looking around 4/5 passes whichever half you're in that's a quicker process.

There are endless scenarios around stats, all you are looking at is a number.
where as your eyes tell you everything with a simple watch..

 

[Swartzy]

Davek will be raging!

Stats can be made to look however you want them to look.

 

[John from Bootle]

Well if you're looking at 9plus passes from an interception in there half, that's a long process..
If you're looking at that rate from the keeper, that could be like 6 passes between Pickford, Tarks and keane and than a long kick up field.
If you're looking around 4/5 passes whichever half you're in that's a quicker process.

There are endless scenarios around stats, all you are looking at is a number.
where as your eyes tell you everything with a simple watch..

No, you were saying a low number of passes would show clubs that are good in transition or on the break. I'm saying there's scenarios (throw ins for one example) where a low amount of passes leading to a goal wouldn't neccesarily mean it had been on the break or in transition.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Then again shouldn't the table also include shorter sequences of passes, which would inturn show clubs that are quicker in transition on the break..

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“Manchester United first for goals from sequences of two or fewer passes with 40”.

Everton

In the previous seven seasons, Everton scored more than three goals from sequences of at least nine passes just once — six in 2020-21 under Carlo Ancelotti. They are on five in 2025-26, showcasing the kind of build-up play few associate with them or David Moyes.

Their opener in the 3-0 win over Chelsea in March will be remembered for Beto’s deft finish, but it was the result of a nine-pass move across 29 seconds from a Vitalii Mykolenko throw-in. Michael Keane, James Tarkowski, Jake O’Brien, Idrissa Gueye and Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall were all involved before James Garner set up Beto.

Only Leeds (14) have generated fewer shots from sequences beginning in the defensive third and lasting five or fewer passes than Everton’s 17. Their charge for Europe is being helped by greater composure on the ball and a quality midfield.

 

[Swartzy]

“Manchester United first for goals from sequences of two or fewer passes with 40”.

Everton

In the previous seven seasons, Everton scored more than three goals from sequences of at least nine passes just once — six in 2020-21 under Carlo Ancelotti. They are on five in 2025-26, showcasing the kind of build-up play few associate with them or David Moyes.

Their opener in the 3-0 win over Chelsea in March will be remembered for Beto’s deft finish, but it was the result of a nine-pass move across 29 seconds from a Vitalii Mykolenko throw-in. Michael Keane, James Tarkowski, Jake O’Brien, Idrissa Gueye and Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall were all involved before James Garner set up Beto.

Only Leeds (14) have generated fewer shots from sequences beginning in the defensive third and lasting five or fewer passes than Everton’s 17. Their charge for Europe is being helped by greater composure on the ball and a quality midfield.

Cheers, I tried looking at it again but couldn't my head around it.

By the way, although I I'm not the biggest fan of stats, that doesn't change me liking what your posting.
If we are sitting up the top of these tables, It's always good to see..

 

[LinekersLegs]

Cheers, I tried looking at it again but couldn't my head around it.

By the way, although I I'm not the biggest fan of stats, that doesn't change me liking what your posting.
If we are sitting up the top of these tables, It's always good to see..

It is indeed.

I personally enjoy stats despite the “lies, damn lies and statistics” issues that can sometimes occur but I appreciate I’m probably a minority in that view!

 

[John from Bootle]

It is indeed.

I personally enjoy stats despite the “lies, damn lies and statistics” issues that can sometimes occur but I appreciate I’m probably a minority in that view!

Stats are okay if not in isolation. Depends what the stats are for I suppose. I mean, the 'king' of stats is the league table, and that never lies, allegdly, so they definitely have a place in the game. Some of them are ridiculous though.

 

[uglykidjoe1982]

Someone posted this beards ago - still not sure what to make of it tbh

To me it suggests that other teams are scoring more ugly goals from set plays and fewer from open play, whereas we’re one of the few teams still playing the kind of sexy liquid football we were playing last season.

 

[Swartzy]

It is indeed.

I personally enjoy stats despite the “lies, damn lies and statistics” issues that can sometimes occur but I appreciate I’m probably a minority in that view!

However I feel about them they are a nice look.
And I don't want to come across as being rude, just because they can do my head in..