2025/26 David Moyes

[Kevsleftpeg]

I am certainly not on your level of praise for Moyes but you do get the feeling that there are a couple of posters in here that would have complained regardless of what happened in the season and in the transfers made.

If we had bought full backs but not got a striker, so only had Beto and youngsters, or maybe didn't get Grealish/Dewsbury-Hall. It was a summer where there was not going to a fix for all positions, we would have to spend well over 200 million to get even close to fixing all the problem areas, 1st 11 and squad depth.

There are a few things that can be pointed at Moyes and criticised, the transfer window is not one of them, in my opinion. I believe it was deemed that Mykolenko and O'Brien were sufficient for one more season, to enable other areas to be focused on. They are not the best options, by any stretch of the imagination but they certainly do a job there.

As you said, this transfer window is a priority for full backs.

I'm just fed up of the relentless negative criticism without any nuance. This place becomes an echo chamber and people think if they repeat something often enough it becomes a fact.

 

[Kurt.]

I think ‘The Arena’ may see some action over the next few days @chicoazul

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Right, @mods, a humble administrative suggestion from the trenches.

The current Moyes discourse is becoming a bit like a family dinner where half the table insists the roast is perfect, while the other half is simply wondering why the smoke alarm has been going off for twenty minutes.
To restore order (and possibly our collective sanity), may I propose the creation of two clearly signposted threads:

1. The Moyes Appreciation Lounge
A safe, carpeted environment where the devoted may post uninterrupted tributes to the managerial genius of David Moyes. Expected content, ‘Masterclass again, Davie’, ‘No one could do better’, ‘he way over performs against his budget’, plus graphs showing possession in the 83rd minute of a 0:0 along with general comparisons to Ferguson, Guardiola, and possibly Winston Churchill.

No dissent, no awkward questions or observations, just pure, unfiltered admiration. Frankly it would be therapeutic for everyone involved.

2. The Actual Discussion Thread
For those of us who enjoy the slightly outdated concept of discussing Everton’s manager in the context of… Everton’s performances.

Radical ideas may include mentioning results, referencing tactics, wondering aloud why certain substitutions resemble pulling bingo numbers, questioning why he wont play certain players etc etc.

This would facilitate civilised, unbiased, reasonable, occasionally sarcastic debate without the immediate arrival of the Moyesettes clutching their pearls and raging at any voice of dissent.

In short, one thread for praise, one thread for reality.

Everybody wins, certain posters blood pressure will (hopefully) be lowered and the rest of the forum can once again scroll without watching the same argument restart every 14 minutes. People will be free to post without fear of middle-aged beetroot cheeked rage demons jumping on comments they disapprove of.

Make GOT Great Again

Thank you for your attention in this matter.

Very even handed comment right there.

 

[Bedfordblue]

Very even handed comment right there.

 

[blue to the bone]

Right, @mods, a humble administrative suggestion from the trenches.

The current Moyes discourse is becoming a bit like a family dinner where half the table insists the roast is perfect, while the other half is simply wondering why the smoke alarm has been going off for twenty minutes.
To restore order (and possibly our collective sanity), may I propose the creation of two clearly signposted threads:

1. The Moyes Appreciation Lounge
A safe, carpeted environment where the devoted may post uninterrupted tributes to the managerial genius of David Moyes. Expected content, ‘Masterclass again, Davie’, ‘No one could do better’, ‘he way over performs against his budget’, plus graphs showing possession in the 83rd minute of a 0:0 along with general comparisons to Ferguson, Guardiola, and possibly Winston Churchill.

No dissent, no awkward questions or observations, just pure, unfiltered admiration. Frankly it would be therapeutic for everyone involved.

2. The Actual Discussion Thread
For those of us who enjoy the slightly outdated concept of discussing Everton’s manager in the context of… Everton’s performances.

Radical ideas may include mentioning results, referencing tactics, wondering aloud why certain substitutions resemble pulling bingo numbers, questioning why he wont play certain players etc etc.

This would facilitate civilised, unbiased, reasonable, occasionally sarcastic debate without the immediate arrival of the Moyesettes clutching their pearls and raging at any voice of dissent.

In short, one thread for praise, one thread for reality.

Everybody wins, certain posters blood pressure will (hopefully) be lowered and the rest of the forum can once again scroll without watching the same argument restart every 14 minutes. People will be free to post without fear of middle-aged beetroot cheeked rage demons jumping on comments they disapprove of.

Make GOT Great Again

Thank you for your attention in this matter.

Still seething

 

[Swartzy]

I could look at this all day


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Let us know how it goes mate

 

[msb]

Right, @mods, a humble administrative suggestion from the trenches.

The current Moyes discourse is becoming a bit like a family dinner where half the table insists the roast is perfect, while the other half is simply wondering why the smoke alarm has been going off for twenty minutes.
To restore order (and possibly our collective sanity), may I propose the creation of two clearly signposted threads:

Make GOT Great Again

Thank you for your attention in this matter.

Really all we need is to rein in the hyperbole, without non-disguised personal attacks against either the manager of the club you support, or a fellow poster of the club you adore.

It is perfectly possible to point out flaws in decision making or posts, in a perfectly reasonable and rational manner, without the need for covert or overt nastiness.

Probably make it really boring, but it’s got to be better than the current degrees of pettiness.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

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Looking at the table must really chew you up inside.

 

[Bedfordblue]

Still seething

 

[Joey66]

Looking at the table must really chew you up inside.

Seasons ago 40 points was what you aimed for for safety - so the table is congested in the middle to where we sit ATM - baring the top & the bottom - so that tells me we have a glut of teams who are close talent wise - better to be out of relegation fights mind you .....

 

[Swartzy]

I think we could nick a result against Arsenal especially if they insist on playing the turgid football they've been playing of late as we have the players who'll make it difficult for them to create anything and we should be able to deal with set pieces you'd hope with the size of our players (though Newcastle and Spurs games add some doubt to that theory)

We really needed it to be this saturday, I lose hope once breaks hit in after a win.
That was a 4 day high that didn't need disrupting..

 

[Bedfordblue]

Looking at the table must really chew you up inside.

Damnit, for forgot to add the ‘they want Everton to lose’ trope to the expected discussion.

 

[MikeH72]

Really all we need is to rein in the hyperbole, without non-disguised personal attacks against either the manager of the club you support, or a fellow poster of the club you adore.

It is perfectly possible to point out flaws in decision making or posts, in a perfectly reasonable and rational manner, without the need for covert or overt nastiness.

Probably make it really boring, but it’s got to be better than the current degrees of pettiness.

Are you trying to tell me we should be putting aside hyperbole and personal agendas and engaging in the sort of rational, non biased, balanced and nuanced debate showcased below?

To be fair to Moyes, last night was game for the ages. I look forward to telling my grandchildren about the match when Everton beat the mighty, basically already relegated, injury decimated Burnley team, 2:0 at home.
A joyous 1st win at home for 3 months.
It will certainly go down in the anals of history.

 

[blue to the bone]

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Forgot to put me on ignore then you trumpet

 

[Swartzy]

Seasons ago 40 points was what you aimed for for safety - so the table is congested in the middle to where we sit ATM - baring the top & the bottom - so that tells me we have a glut of teams who are close talent wise - better to be out of relegation fights mind you .....

Being able to look down at a tasty dogfight between West ham, Forest and Spurs is a sweet moment.

Up the palace tonight !!