2025/26 David Moyes

[Moonlight dribble]

I'm the same with this, why would you hand him another large wedge of cash when he hasn't even got the best out of the players that were brought in last summer.

He doesn't need a budget, I spotted his transfer targets -
Ward-Prowse
Soucek,
Kyle Walker,
Scott McTominay in 4 seasons looking ahead,

 

[davek]

I'm the same with this, why would you hand him another large wedge of cash when he hasn't even got the best out of the players that were brought in last summer.

I wouldn't give hi a penny more, tbh.

The signings by and large and / or his dealings with them have been a huge waste.

But if we get top half TFG will shrug and let him ride his contract out and tell him to sell to buy.

If I were them under those circumstances that's what Ild do.

 

[Drico]

I'm the same with this, why would you hand him another large wedge of cash when he hasn't even got the best out of the players that were brought in last summer.

Nobody rational would. Economics assumes rational behaviour. Businessmen like the Friedkins will be more than aware of this.

 

[Moonlight dribble]

I wouldn't give hi a penny more, tbh.

The signings by and large and / or his dealings with them have been a huge waste.

But if we get top half TFG will shrug and let him ride his contract out and tell him to sell to buy.

If I were them under those circumstances that's what Ild do.

What he has done to Dibling, Barry and Aznou is negligent.

 

[Drico]

If you were a manager of any other business and asked the owners for 80m so you could upgrade your machinery got the money but carried on using the older more familiar equipment how long do you think you would last?
Every time you think hes on the verge of the sack he has managed to pull off a big result away from home and silence the doubters.
I think we will see a different picture this weekend ,If we concede early it could get messy

I think he needs six points from the next two to change the narrative. Certainly, four.

He could win on Saturday, but failing to win at home to Burnley wouldn't move the dial.

A draw on Saturday and a home win on Tuesday settles people, but again doesn't really convince any doubters. Politically, it would be hard for the owners to remove him if he made Europe. But as Blain said on ToffeeTV last night, one of the benefits of having owners who don't visit and remain detatched is they don't allow interpersonal emotion to cloud their judgement. If the Friedkins want to challenge the elite, they'll make their move in the summer. If they want to sweat the stadium until they flip it, the Moyesiah is their safest pair of hands.

 

[davek]

It comes down to their vision. If they want to nurse their investment but have no real vision for challenging the current "elite", then they might hold on to Moyes, calibrate their spending (so, sit out January windows), and attract events to the stadium - the real asset in their eyes.

If they have footballing ambitions, I suspect they will make a managerial change in the summer, attract somebody who buys-in to the "developing youth" model, and spend accordingly.

Let's assume the stadium is key to them - which surely it is. I doubt they're thrilled that it hasn't sold out all season and we couldn't fill it even for the visit of United. Seat Unique tickets are cheaper than people think with a bit of patient monitoring. Season tickets - the bulk of our attendance - are subsidised. A Moyes team doesn't maximise the revenue possibilities. Logically, they will want better, more attractive football that people are prepared to pay for. They are Americans: lovers of big events. Moyes's Everton were many things over the years, sometimes positive things. But we were never box office. That will need to change.

My view on them hasn't changed: they got this club at a knock down price. They can take the odd hit on a transfer going west. They've hired a stadium management company to ruthlessly commodify the 'facility' and prove to whomever they have in mind to sell us onto that we're a viable investment. So that means staying until the type of creases we've seen this season are ironed out.

Roma is their focus. I'll be surprised if we stay top half and Moyes is sacked. Very surprised. Equally, I'd be surprised - unless we get Europe - if they hand him an extension. They're in a good position to allow their own corporate strategy for us to unfold.

 

[davek]

What he has done to Dibling, Barry and Aznou is negligent.

I'd be concerned at that if I were TFG. However, if the team are way above relegation and somewhere near mid-table I'd retain him...if I were them.

However, as a fan Ild say 'top half minimum or he goes'.

 

[RD2910]

What he has done to Dibling, Barry and Aznou is negligent.

Do you not place any responsibility on Dibling? If he'd been good he certainly would have played more. I don't think there's no blame on the manager and the staff for how it's gone for him so far, but how long can you accept players doing absolutely nothing on the pitch?

The lad's been shown up by Aznou, George and Armstrong this season but people still put him in their lists of players who haven't had a fair crack of the whip. It's weird.

 

[Moonlight dribble]

Do you not place any responsibility on Dibling? If he'd been good he certainly would have played more. I don't think there's no blame on the manager and the staff for how it's gone for him so far, but how long can you accept players doing absolutely nothing on the pitch?

The lad's been shown up by Aznou, George and Armstrong this season but people still put him in their lists of players who haven't had a fair crack of the whip. It's weird.

The club spent £40 million on him, he has a history of being home sick, the manager has a responsibility to put everything into his progress. The manager should be doing press conferences on his potential, his flair, his ability, just you wait. Nothing from Moyes. I would sack him on that alone.

 

[willo30]

What he has done to Dibling, Barry and Aznou is negligent.

He sees these every day in training, we don't. The fact that Armstrong and George are getting minutes proves he has nothing against youth.

 

[RD2910]

The club spent £40 million on him, he has a history of being home sick, the manager has a responsibility to put everything into his progress. The manager should be doing press conferences on his potential, his flair, his ability, just you wait. Nothing from Moyes. I would sack him on that alone.

The staff work with him every day, and it's obviously important they give him every opportunity to realise his potential, but you have absolutely no idea what happens there. What would be the point of a press conference?

 

[willo30]

The club spent £40 million on him, he has a history of being home sick, the manager has a responsibility to put everything into his progress. The manager should be doing press conferences on his potential, his flair, his ability, just you wait. Nothing from Moyes. I would sack him on that alone.

Blowing smoke up the ass of a youngster not showing enough isn't the way to fulfill his potential. The lad has to work hard.
We tried it with the Italian lad to no avail.

 

[Moonlight dribble]

He sees these every day in training, we don't. The fact that Armstrong and George are getting minutes proves he has nothing against youth.

Just nonsense. He is wasting a £40 million asset

 

[Moonlight dribble]

Blowing smoke up the ass of a youngster not showing enough isn't the way to fulfill his potential. The lad has to work hard.
We tried it with the Italian lad to no avail.

Well the manager should work it out. Not good enough. Tough love dinosaur is not good enough when you earn mega wages

 

[RD2910]

Just nonsense. He is wasting a £40 million asset

What would you do?