But the other logic is you can’t discard all the young players you’ve bought and end up worse. Play all the youngsters the club have bought and have a plan of how to play moving forward. What’s the plan with Moyes ?? The set pieces the other day were a disgrace, he’s a dinasour full stop
I'm not certain no but I think maybe. He's definitely hard to tackle when he has the ball at his feet. There's a good amount of decent DMs out there who are about as crap at passing, being balanced out by partners that are great at it. I know this sounds mad but genuinely players like Baleba, Scott, Magassa are similar.
It does sound mad but it's because they all have the awareness of what's happening around them, and Tim doesn't (yet?) - he gets caught out quite often and as a DM that leads directly to chances for the opposition.
Tim can't pick a pass, he cant shoot.
He doesn't know his next decision.
This is just such a reductive take, it's just shoehorning what you want to be the case in rather than looking at the actual facts. Why didn't Garner stop any of the goals that we conceded in all the other games if it's so obvious he would have stopped this one? That's not a criticism of Garner, no player can single handedly guarantee games going a certain way, it's ridiculous to suggest they can. This obsession people have with blaming certain players for absolutely everything that happens and ignoring the fact that the same things happen when they don't play is weird.
I think we will just have to Agree to disagree on this one mate, I would love Scott at us, he's quality.
But I don't see another level on Tim.
I don't think there is any more room in his locker.
Tim is an athlete, I don't see football intelligence..
Correct. Add poor positional sense too.
It's a shame because he loves a tackle and can burst forward with the ball , sadly he doesn't then have a clue what to do next.
Why is it shoehorning anything, I picked one incident, the incident that led to the goal.
We didn't have a single CM covering that position.
Thats not just random bad luck, it's because they aren't communicating.
Garner leads in the middle, he is always talking and telling people where to be.
Who done that on Monday..
3 Cms and not one of them thought about the gap.
Totally fair bud. I'm not hanging my hat on it that's for sure. I'm basing my thoughts basically entirely on that run of ~4 games he had in December where I really thought I suddenly saw another level unlocking for him and he looked genuinely class.
Fwiw I think he prooobably gets sold in the summer anyway.
It will be lower than that if he keeps selecting teams like Mondays ...
evertony
Player Valuation: £50m
All the metrics can be used to support good, bad or indifferent performance, ability and aspirations.
The top and bottom of it irrelevant of net spend, ability to scout good players and whether Moyes buys and brings "100's of millions into the Club" as has been suggested (and is highly over-stated in my humble opinion) is that the football served up is predictable, boring and out-dated.
There's no getting away from that. Personally, I want to watch entertaining football and I don't expect us to win anything at all trophy-wise in the next 5-10 years unless there's a huge re-set of the Premier League, it's financial restrictions and it's obvious bias. That boat has sailed. And, I don't think we can have entertaining football with David Moyes at the helm.
The top and bottom of it irrelevant of net spend, ability to scout good players and whether Moyes buys and brings "100's of millions into the Club" as has been suggested (and is highly over-stated in my humble opinion) is that the football served up is predictable, boring and out-dated.
There's no getting away from that. Personally, I want to watch entertaining football and I don't expect us to win anything at all trophy-wise in the next 5-10 years unless there's a huge re-set of the Premier League, it's financial restrictions and it's obvious bias. That boat has sailed. And, I don't think we can have entertaining football with David Moyes at the helm.
Because as has been pointed out to you numerous times, the same things have happened in games where he's been in midfield. What you're saying would have some merit if we consistently kept clean sheets and dominated the midfield every time he played in midfield but...we don't. We haven't won a home game for 3 months, nor have we kept a clean sheet. In most of those games Garner has been in midfield, so the evidence doesn't support the idea that we would have automatically kept a clean sheet just because he was in this game.
Tomorrow p m, apparently.
