2025/26 David Moyes

[preposterousvelios]

Yeah, definitely a factor.

I wouldn't be advocating or betting on it, but I wouldn't be shocked.

People thinking he'd have to earn his stripes elsewhere etc, I don't think that's a given, an them allowing De Rossi to replace Jose Mourinho, with 3 year contract backs that line of thought.

I would defo be shocked, honestly hard to say how I would feel other than that. I'm born in the 90s, Baines and Coleman the biggest club legends of my life time.

No idea whatsoever how they're thought of internally and in the wider game. If they were actually in with a shot you would have to think they're rated pretty highly.

 

[Efcjake]

How long does any manager not called David Moyes get to have us finishing in Europe and getting to cup finals?

One year? Two years?

From what I gather here that's the minimum acceptable from an Everton manager now.

We sit in 8th and some of you want him gone after a year and a half in the job. What patience will you all have for the next unfortunate victim?

 

[Seathestars]

Yes spend loads of money on a recruitment team and let Moyes pick the
Next mananger

Well they are letting him pick the players now

 

[Simon Buttle]

Well they are letting him pick the players now

Picking a manager is a whole different ball game though, if you let him lead that sort of thing Id dread to think who we would end up with, it would be an extremely small shortlist imo. We would probably end up with someone like Howe who makes Moyes look like a breeze to work with and Howe really does want control over EVERYTHING, can be a very awkward customer by all accounts.

 

[Efcjake]

Just curious with matches against a resurgent man united, Newcastle, Chelsea, arsenal and Liverpool approaching , how many of those games do people even the moyesiah zealots think we'll win? especially with his dismal record against those teams (talking about sky 6 not horse punchers)

What do you feel is a reasonable expectation Curtis?

 

[blueboy72]

They give him a new 3 year contract in June, and sacked him Sept. After 4 matches, and 1 defeat since that contract.

All the reports said he was sacked because of internal conflicts.

I said on here the second they hired Ranieri that if they have to leg Dyche mid season, it would be Moyes.

Coleman, especially if advocated by Moyes/players etc, would be in with a good shout - based on TFGs MO. He'd be interviewed for it if he wanted, I'm sure.

Not a chance. That’s hardly their MO. As they’ve appointed, mourinho, Ranieri and Gasperini
They tried an inexperienced club legend and quickly realised it was a mistake

 

[Seathestars]

Picking a manager is a whole different ball game though, if you let him lead that sort of thing Id dread to think who we would end up with, it would be an extremely small shortlist imo. We would probably end up with someone like Howe who makes Moyes look like a breeze to work with and Howe really does want control over EVERYTHING, can be a very awkward customer by all accounts.

Yeah, it is a different ball game for sure, look at when Ferguson picked Moyes.
I'm sure he will have some input on who his successor maybe mind you.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I would defo be shocked, honestly hard to say how I would feel other than that. I'm born in the 90s, Baines and Coleman the biggest club legends of my life time.

No idea whatsoever how they're thought of internally and in the wider game. If they were actually in with a shot you would have to think they're rated pretty highly.

Yeah - what I'm trying to say is If we have owners who replaced Jose Mourinho with De Rossi, then I wouldn't be shocked if they replaced David Moyes with Seamus Coleman.

How long does any manager not called David Moyes get to have us finishing in Europe and getting to cup finals?

One year? Two years?

From what I gather here that's the minimum acceptable from an Everton manager now.

We sit in 8th and some of you want him gone after a year and a half in the job. What patience will you all have for the next unfortunate victim?

It's a fair point - 44% just voted in another thread that they want him gone this summer.

On the surface, that seems harsh, given we're 8th.

People said the same when Allardyce was sacked after finishing 8th.

But context matters. Fans have known Moyes as a manager for 15+ years, so we know what to expect. Whether we finish 8th - or 12th, which we’re just one result away from, and where we ended under Dyche’s only full season - my opinion of him doesn’t change.

Sure, he gets a thumbs-up and "good effort/an improvement" if we finish 8th, and a “pffft” if we finish 12th. But those differences are based on tiny margins. As I say, right now, that's just one result.

At the end of the day, people either think he’s the right man or they don’t.

You can acknowledge improvement and time is needed, and but still dont think Moyes is the right choice long term

 

[Swartzy]

Not a chance. That’s hardly their MO. As they’ve appointed, mourinho, Ranieri and Gasperini
They tried an inexperienced club legend and quickly realised it was a mistake

Ivan juric

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Not a chance. That’s hardly their MO. As they’ve appointed, mourinho, Ranieri and Gasperini
They tried an inexperienced club legend and quickly realised it was a mistake

Evidently you didn't realise/was mistaken about De Rossi.

They also hired Ivan Juric too, and sacked him after 50 or so days.

They're not afraid to make bold decisions.

 

[Efcjake]

Yeah - what I'm trying to say is If we have owners who replaced Jose Mourinho with De Rossi, then I wouldn't be shocked if they replaced David Moyes with Seamus Coleman.



It's a fair point - 44% just voted in another thread that they want him gone this summer.

On the surface, that seems harsh, given we're 8th.

People said the same when Allardyce was sacked after finishing 8th.

But context matters. Fans have known Moyes as a manager for 15+ years, so we know what to expect. Whether we finish 8th - or 12th, which we’re just one result away from, and where we ended under Dyche’s only full season - my opinion of him doesn’t change.

Sure, he gets a thumbs-up and "good effort/an improvement" if we finish 8th, and a “pffft” if we finish 12th. But those differences are based on tiny margins. As I say, right now, that's just one result.

At the end of the day, people either think he’s the right man or they don’t.

You can acknowledge improvement and time is needed, and but still dont think Moyes is the right choice long term

Yes context matters. This is one of the least patient supports I am aware of that lives in the past glory days and refuses to accept reality. We had plenty who wanted Martinez gone in the second season. We finished in Europe and then sacked Koeman before next Christmas. The owners have changed but the fans haven't.

The question remains, how patient will the majority of the support be if the next man through the door only achieves what Moyes has and no better? Or God forbid, he does worse?

Will that man be extended patience?

People are adamant that the only acceptable future for us is Europe and challenging for cups and they want Moyes sacked this summer because he hasn't achieved that in 18 months.

Does the next fella get 18 months? Does he get longer?

I fail to see where the patience will come from.

 

[blueboy72]

How long does any manager not called David Moyes get to have us finishing in Europe and getting to cup finals?

One year? Two years?

From what I gather here that's the minimum acceptable from an Everton manager now.

We sit in 8th and some of you want him gone after a year and a half in the job. What patience will you all have for the next unfortunate victim

Its not that we want him sacked and let’s get rid because he’s doing a terrible job, it’s the bigger picture, and all this were in 8th, you say it like the seasons finished, there’s a long way to go and it’s a congested table

The football, Is boring it’s uninspiring, the home form is a joke. And we all know it’s not changing under Moyes. It’s how he plays and sets up, it’s safety first management. With the tough run we have left, I’d be surprised if we finished top half, if we do and even get Europe, then he will no doubt get his last year.
If we finish 13th then it’s a different conversation, you can’t be finishing there, playing the way we do.

So for the manager it’s game on, maybe if he knows TFG expect 10th of higher, he may have to let the handbrake off, but I won’t hold my breath

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Yes context matters. This is one of the least patient supports I am aware of that lives in the past glory days and refuses to accept reality. We had plenty who wanted Martinez gone in the second season. We finished in Europe and then sacked Koeman before next Christmas. The owners have changed but the fans haven't.

The question remains, how patient will the majority of the support be if the next man through the door only achieves what Moyes has and no better? Or God forbid, he does worse?

Will that man be extended patience?

People are adamant that the only acceptable future for us is Europe and challenging for cups and they want Moyes sacked this summer because he hasn't achieved that in 18 months.

Does the next fella get 18 months? Does he get longer?

I fail to see where the patience will come from.

Think when we have 30+ years without a trophy, hoping a man responsible for over a third of that who hasn't ever won a domestic trophy stifles some hope - and that also plays into patience.

Our target is definitely Europe, but I've not seen, aside from a tiny minority make the point that we should be in Europe. For me, it's certainly not that or bust. Nor is it a big expectation - we're 7th/8th-12th/13th.

I'd be disappointed if we finished bottom half, and pleased if we finish top half but again - the margins there are so small, it's not something that should be huge issue/conclusive either way.

Either Moyes, a manager we've known for decades is the right man - in which case give him a new contract this summer. Or, he isn't.

He definitely wasn't TFGs preferred choice, but sometimes you can have happy accidents in football. Liverpool wanted Amorim. That's football.

 

[Curtis]

What do you feel is a reasonable expectation Curtis?

Solid question, Jake , I don't really know what the expectations should truly be as the run in is pretty challenging on paper. That's why I was hoping Moyes would of fared better against the weaker teams we played over the past couple of months as we could use all the points as possible to compensate for a downturn in form. So our next five matches are Man united, new castle , Burnley, Arsenal and Chelsea id say if we got 7 points to 9 points I'd be elated . 4 to 6 points is the bare minimum I guess As those are some tough teams not just based on Moyes's history, Everton as a club too

 

[matty1878]

With Silva we have to remember that there are plenty of stories out there about the chaotic transfers that were taking place. He’s clearly a good manager. Good enough for a bigger job - who knows.

silva had better players here also

and got sacked