2025/26 David Moyes

[toffeeblue9]

All hell will break loose if he loses today

Will it? I'm genuinely expecting us to lose today.

We have 8 players out, a patchy home record, all of our best creative players missing and we are playing a team above us in the league.

I think we are underdogs today. I will be as frustrated as anyone if we lose, but it shouldn't be totally unexpected.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Its a shame that we have dropped 6 points this season to the teams that are well adrift in the bottom three, two of those games we dropped points were at home.

All 3 games we showed a complete lack of urgency to get on the front foot. We let really poor teams dictate the game and that can't happen

 

[Kev The Rat]

Will it? I'm genuinely expecting us to lose today.

We have 8 players out, a patchy home record, all of our best creative players missing and we are playing a team above us in the league.

I think we are underdogs today. I will be as frustrated as anyone if we lose, but it shouldn't be totally unexpected.

Bookies have us as fairly clear favourites so not sure where this ‘underdog’ get out clause you speak of originates from

 

[paultheblue]

Do you not think Everton fans are great?

I am I cant speak for the rest of you

 

[Gilbert..]

All 3 games we showed a complete lack of urgency to get on the front foot. We let really poor teams dictate the game and that can't happen

We're a poor team. People seem to forget that. Esp with two nailed on starters and potential match winners not available in Ndiaye and KDH. first 11 all available we're not a bad side. Not brilliant but not bad. Take a few out and the squad really starts to show its lack of quality in depth. Fullbacks are a big part of any decent team. We've the worst fullback options i think on planet earth.
Wolves have just had a month under the new manager where Arsenal struggled to beat them at the emirates. Liverpool struggled to beat them at anfield. Man utd never beat them at Old trafford. But Everton are meant to steamroll them. Why?
We're a mid table team. Poor forwards. No fullbacks. Best players missing.
Where does this we should be beating teams easly thing come from. I genuinely dont get it.

 

[Bedfordblue]

I agree, but my expectations for this season were basically somewhere between 8th and 12th depending on how injuries went (and they've not been too kind to us).

It's fine to get frustrated at individual games and decisions etc and that's what being a supporter is about at times, but if you're judging him properly you do it on the whole season and whether he's achieved whatever the goals were (accept these will be slightly different for everyone but I'd want a robust argument from someone as to why we should be qualifying for Europe this season if that's their expectations).

I have no problem particularly with finishing 10th this season (albeit it would feel a bit of a missed opportunity) if I felt this manager would win something in the next 2-3 years and establish us in the top 6 (assuming finances / owner ‘ambishon’ is taking us there).
I don’t think he’s the guy unfortunately, so he’s a stop gap that will be sacked sooner or later, where I’d have preferred to see someone here for 5-6 year to build something.
That’s without getting into my opinion that his disrespectful departure and mediocre record should have precluded him from consideration to begin with.

 

[Bedfordblue]

Will it? I'm genuinely expecting us to lose today.

We have 8 players out, a patchy home record, all of our best creative players missing and we are playing a team above us in the league.

I think we are underdogs today. I will be as frustrated as anyone if we lose, but it shouldn't be totally unexpected.

 

[toffeeblue9]

Bookies have us as fairly clear favourites so not sure where this ‘underdog’ get out clause you speak of originates from

Yep, I saw that but I don't really understand the logic of why we are such favourites today tbh

 

[ToffeeScot]

One Per Koldrup.

However, I think that admission gives us an insight into his thought process.

I was reading about our worst transfers the other day and saw a snippet from Osman on Koldrup which states Moyes had to try and teach him how to head the ball.

 

[Drico]

We're not going from fighting relegation for 5 years to finishing in the top 6 over 1 summer.

Nobody is asking for that. Many people are simply hoping for 10th and a cup run, which is not unreasonable. He might yet achieve that, but if we go out today he definitely won't.

 

[Mr Happy]

Nobody is asking for that. Many people are simply hoping for 10th and a cup run, which is not unreasonable. He might yet achieve that, but if we go out today he definitely won't.

No cup run if we lose today you say ?

 

[Drico]

No cup run if we lose today you say ?

If you can be Mr Happy, I can be Captain Obvious.

 

[Bluepablo]

Nobody is asking for that. Many people are simply hoping for 10th and a cup run, which is not unreasonable. He might yet achieve that, but if we go out today he definitely won't.

Some decent football would be nice as well.

 

[Drico]

Some decent football would be nice as well.

Ah, now. Let's stay reasonable in our demands...

 

[N0L1M1TK]

Talk about being set up to fail.