2024/25 David Moyes


Drico said:
What if we got a new manager and he could attract players?

What if we got a new manager and he succeeded?

This is how we needed to be thinking: not playing the percentages and writing off a trip to Leeds because we have half a squad.
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But we've already got a manager who is performing well.

Who is this mythical manager we can get that has the pull to attract players through his own reputation alone? One example please.
 
Drico said:
Nobody is demanding they solve all of our many issues in one window. But let's be honest here. If they can't make a significantly positive impact in their first window, that tells a tale on their competence and vision.

So, yeah, right now: they are failing. Moyes himself has intimated as much. Can they rectify this? One would hope so. Is it about us being patient? No. It's about them acting and getting stuff done.
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The situation is though that the transfer window is not closed, the season has not started, we don't know what they and the people they have hired are doing on a day to day basis.

It very much seems like the people who are getting the most upset about the low number of signings are intimating that they are wanting everything now.

We have so far, signed 4 players (if we include Alcaraz as a permanent signing). Is it enough, no, but the window is not over yet. It is not over for another 4 weeks. I very much doubt they are not in contact with any players, we won't know for certain how many, because we are not privy to every phone call, every meeting, every message that is sent between staff, agents & players.

I think it is more a case that things could be bad or they could be better in a few weeks, maybe even in a few days, so to say they are outright failing is a complete overreaction.
 

Toffe3m4n said:
Would you rather we filled it with any old dross mate just to say 'at least we had a bench of senior players in time for Leeds United'?
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No I would like us to sign players who will improve the squad and I don't believe that is an unreasonable task because we are not a good team and our numbers are extremely short.

It's not difficult to improve this squad - it's not very good.
 
ToffeeTim said:
No I would like us to sign players who will improve the squad and I don't believe that is an unreasonable task because we are not a good team and our numbers are extremely short.

It's not difficult to improve this squad - it's not very good.
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Respectfully mate - for how many years have we been saying that now and nothing has fundamentally changed? If it were that easy, it surely would've been evident long before now?

A slight change of tact was required this summer and, in my opinion, welcome. Patience is needed.
 
Toffe3m4n said:
Respectfully mate - for how many years have we been saying that now and nothing has fundamentally changed? If it were that easy, it surely would've been evident long before now?

A slight change of tact was required this summer and, in my opinion, welcome. Patience is needed.
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With more money available than previous seasons, and many players now off the wage bill, it should definitely be very achievable this summer.

This summer is the biggest chance we've had to overhaul the squad in a long time. It's not the time for patience, this is the time to make the most of a big opportunity and I don't think we are on course to do it. I still see no proper strategy in place and that's frustrating.
 
John from Bootle said:
But we've already got a manager who is performing well.

Who is this mythical manager we can get that has the gravitas to attract players through his own reputation? One example please.
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He performed very well. He did what they hired him for: keep us up. The question then was, when that job was completed successfully: is he the right man to attract players in a new era and take us forward?

That was a decision point. I very much doubt David Moyes would have been the Friedkin choice if Sean Dyche got us comfortably to safety this summer and they then decided to replace. But it is what it is. They decided to keep him. Fair enough. I don't object as the man has always been competent, whatever his faults. But if you are going to keep Moyes, you HAVE to back him. Everything else is just excuses. Up to now, they haven't. Now, maybe they will get the finger out and he ends up reasonably satisfied. But if they don't, things could get messy for both Moyes and the Friedkins.

The bitter truth for the Friedkins and their expectation management is we actually had a manager whose reputation preceeded him: Carlo Ancelotti. If the incompetent Farhad Moshiri could land a man of that calibre, why are we saying that the super-competent, visionary Friedkins couldn't? By the way, for the avoidance of doubt, I am not saying they SHOULD have. I think that was a coup for Moshiri - largely circumstantial - but the idea that Everton could never get top quality is for the birds if the vision and financing is there.

I was - and am - happy for Moyes to continue. BUT HE HAS TO BE BACKED. And, no, he was never the face of the future that might have appealed to players that we are struggling to get. In that sense, and in the absence of picking off an Iraola or attracting a Simeone, then our recruitment team needs to work that bit harder. It really shouldn't be beyond them.
 

wandyr79 said:
The situation is though that the transfer window is not closed, the season has not started, we don't know what they and the people they have hired are doing on a day to day basis.

It very much seems like the people who are getting the most upset about the low number of signings are intimating that they are wanting everything now.
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That's David Moyes.
 

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