2024/25 David Moyes

[Marius57]

He is so far saying the right things, he knows we need more goals in the team and he knows we need quality in the final 1/3.

So let's see how it pans out in the summer, as others have said we can't afford to get this wrong, hopefully he will go for young upcoming type of players rather than your old experienced ones.

I am a bit concerned that he has full control over transfers as Thelwell was doing a good job under difficult circumstances, I know he did make a couple of blunders but also signed some quality with limited funds
Ndiaye Obrien Iberbunham.

Hopefully we get something to look forward to going into our new stadium and we get our business done early

Iroebugnam has a big question mark over him currently.

Tarks, Gana and Ndiaye are the best bits of business Thelwell did.

His loan signings (possibly Mangala aside) were poor. His striker signings have also been fairly poor (big question mark over chemiti at this point).

Moyes will improve the defence and midfield. We know he is good at that. I hope he has someone around him that can now find the striker because we struggled with that during his last time with us (and aside from 3/4 years of Lukaku) have struggled with it since his time with us.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Worked. Difficulty to replicate. Think moshiri and forest rolled the dice. There’s landed on a 6 we hit a 2.
Can’t argue they haven’t bought some good players. Better than we managed under moshiri

Too early to say, for me. It could all unwrap very quickly for them. A potential Leed-esque debacle in the making.

Competition seemed much tougher at the time as well.

 

[twoblue]

Too early to say, for me. It could all unwrap very quickly for them. A potential Leed-esque debacle in the making.

Competition seemed much tougher at the time as well.

I agree competition was greater, but the resell value on their players is higher than we could manage. Not sure we made a profit on many.

 

[twoblue]

Iroebugnam has a big question mark over him currently.

Tarks, Gana and Ndiaye are the best bits of business Thelwell did.

His loan signings (possibly Mangala aside) were poor. His striker signings have also been fairly poor (big question mark over chemiti at this point).

Moyes will improve the defence and midfield. We know he is good at that. I hope he has someone around him that can now find the striker because we struggled with that during his last time with us (and aside from 3/4 years of Lukaku) have struggled with it since his time with us.

Thelwell was trying to work at making a profit each season. Can’t really judge him against what you would expect in normal circumstances

 

[Marius57]

Thelwell was trying to work at making a profit each season. Can’t really judge him against what you would expect in normal circumstances

I agree to an extent. I think he did a decent job overall. But even with the challenges, the strikers have been poor for fairly high prices when you look at some of the other strikers bought into the league in the same period.

Point is though that we still desperately need a striker. And as much as I like Moyes and think he is doing and will do a good job with us, it’s an area he struggled with last time round and also struggled with at West Ham.

 

[kiss the crest]

Iroebugnam has a big question mark over him currently.

Tarks, Gana and Ndiaye are the best bits of business Thelwell did.

His loan signings (possibly Mangala aside) were poor. His striker signings have also been fairly poor (big question mark over chemiti at this point).

Moyes will improve the defence and midfield. We know he is good at that. I hope he has someone around him that can now find the striker because we struggled with that during his last time with us (and aside from 3/4 years of Lukaku) have struggled with it since his time with us.

Think his loan signings were limited based on funds, we didn't pay for Broja until he was fit and that was only wages and the same with Harrison no loan fee there, Lindstrom is and was a gamble that didn't work out as we were desperate for a wide player, Thelwell wanted Kudos Diaz and Minteh and then had to make do with the above

 

[Bluepablo]

Really worry if Moyes is in charge of transfers we end up back where we started with Moshiri when we have just reached the point where the deadwood from that era can be cleared out.

Alcaraz situation makes me think he’s not playing him because he would rather spend the money on Soucek.

You would think we should take up the option on Alcarez & offer Doucure an extension on significantly lower wages but if neither happens it makes it a lot easier to push for Soucek.

I can’t believe that Thelwell negotiated an option for Alcarez that fell within the current PSR period after all the work he did to sort the PSR mess out.

 

[blueboy72]

As far as I'm aware Penrice has same role at Leeds that Newman had at West Ham. Direction of travel seems pretty clear. Manager in charge of who he signs.

Signs IE players ?
I disagree I think it will be a recruitment team, well them and Moyes. As Moyes wont be here for ever, maybe 2/3yrs at the most

 

[degsy]

"...I was really disappointed when we re-appointed him. Pleasantly surprised with how he started - but now concerned we/he are slipping into old habits..."

Danny O'Neill wrote this - The Moyes Paradox in 2 sentences.

My view; He has, as they say, earned his chance to walk out on to BMD in August, but if it Was to be somebody else...
I wouldn't shed too many tears.

A bit harsh?
Probably, but it's a harsh world sometimes.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

"...I was really disappointed when we re-appointed him. Pleasantly surprised with how he started - but now concerned we/he are slipping into old habits..."

Danny O'Neill wrote this - The Moyes Paradox in 2 sentences.

My view; He has, as they say, earned his chance to walk out on to BMD in August, but if it Was to be somebody else...
I wouldn't shed too many tears.

A bit harsh?
Probably, but it's a harsh world sometimes.

Old habit's?...Jesus wept.

He's currently got a team who are either on the beach,out of contract or just completely gash so I don't quite know what he means by "old habits".

Am convinced chaos and upheaval is the only place some Blues call home.

 

[twoblue]

I am at a point where I can't believe what I am reading.
People are worried about Moyes wasting money. Of all the things you could not criticise moyes with over the last tenure it cannot be his ability to find value in the market.
Yes people keep coming back to strikers, but we never had the wages or transfer fees to get a guaranteed striker, so your beaties clearly were a miss. But Andy Johnson had a good season, Saha and Yakubu were solid striker purchases.
But for every Klodrup and Beatie, there were 5 amazing players, some of which in hindsight can be viewed as Everton legends of the Premier League era, including Cahill, Arteta, Jagielka, Baines, and Peinnar.
Also signing Lescott, Yobo, Distin, and, of course, John Stones... All of whom were great defenders. And lets not forget 60k Coleman. Signed decent keepers too.
The big signing was Fellaini, and we made a good profit on him. As well as selling Rodwell at the right time.

He was prepared to take chances on players with potential x factor that never came off too, Van de Meide, Fernandes, Jo and Drenthe - all of which were gambles never came off but showed ambition. None of which broke the bank.

But yes, you are also going to have to put up with the solid yet boring signings work horses - Nevilles, Kilbans, Naismiths.

No manager gets everything right in the transfer market, but Moyes, for me, is the man that I would trust more than anyone else to spend frugally and wisely. We have not bought as well at any time during the Premier League era as when Moyes was manager for the first time. Signing players on the way up or with something left to prove... and then coaching the team to be greater than the sum of its parts.

 

[Groucho]

"...I was really disappointed when we re-appointed him. Pleasantly surprised with how he started - but now concerned we/he are slipping into old habits..."

Danny O'Neill wrote this - The Moyes Paradox in 2 sentences.

My view; He has, as they say, earned his chance to walk out on to BMD in August, but if it Was to be somebody else...
I wouldn't shed too many tears.

A bit harsh?
Probably, but it's a harsh world sometimes.

Old habit's?...Jesus wept.

He's currently got a team who are either on the beach,out of contract or just completely gash so I don't quite know what he means by "old habits".

Am convinced chaos and upheaval is the only place some Blues call home.

Yeah I mean, I can’t believe he’s not picked prime Dixie Dean and both Ronaldos.

There’s only so much that can be done with this squad and that sure as hell ain’t on Moyes’ head.

He wants to aim for Europe next season. I’m just getting behind that and BMD. It’s a nice change from the doom, although it spreads some people want to remain gloomy.

 

[Thomasc]

Chatting with a West Ham fan last night in a bar in Portugal.

Despite them being 4th from bottom and him winning a European trophy with them and getting them their highest prem finishes, he still thinks it was the right thing to do h to do in letting him go.

I can understand people there not enjoying the football they are paying to watch, but that’s pretty nuts IMO.

 

[MikeH72]

Chatting with a West Ham fan last night in a bar in Portugal.

Despite them being 4th from bottom and him winning a European trophy with them and getting them their highest prem finishes, he still thinks it was the right thing to do h to do in letting him go.

I can understand people there not enjoying the football they are paying to watch, but that’s pretty nuts IMO.

He’d been there about 5 years though hadn’t he? I understand wanting to freshen things up after that long. I don’t think they were going to progress any further under him, it’s like when he left here in 2013, we all thought it was time for a change for us. Obviously we didn’t know that we’d proceed to get every single appointment wrong in the 11 years that followed.

 

[Lanolin]

Iroebugnam has a big question mark over him currently.

Tarks, Gana and Ndiaye are the best bits of business Thelwell did.

His loan signings (possibly Mangala aside) were poor. His striker signings have also been fairly poor (big question mark over chemiti at this point).

Moyes will improve the defence and midfield. We know he is good at that. I hope he has someone around him that can now find the striker because we struggled with that during his last time with us (and aside from 3/4 years of Lukaku) have struggled with it since his time with us.

I wouldn't say he struggled to identify a striker, we just didn't have the funds to go and get a genuinely top drawer one. He did fine bringing in 'good' players in that position, but it's not easy to pick up a 30 goal a season striker for a pittance.