2024/25 David Moyes

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There's no wind up about this. I am terrified about where we're going under Moyes here.
There is no need to be terrified about moving up the table Dave. I know we have been near the bottom for a few seasons but don't worry, through GOT, we will hold your hand as we ascend so that you aren't making the journey into the top half of the Premier League alone
 
How come he got relegated at Burnley despite keeping them up for a number of seasons?

There is no need to be terrified about moving up the table Dave. I know we have been near the bottom for a few seasons but don't worry, through GOT, we will hold your hand as we ascend so that you aren't making the journey into the top half of the Premier League alone

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I think they are both symptoms rather than the cause of our issues
I do agree to a certain extent. I think the dysfunctional board meant we made poor hires. Dyche did well last year in tough circumstances but he is limited. In hindsight, we passed on Moyes a couple of times and we probably should have appointed him but maybe we weren’t quite there yet as a fan base.
 

Not sure that Dyche was certain to keep us up.
Exactly. I’m happy to give Dyche credit for the job he did in the last two seasons (last season particularly). He did the job he was brought in to do, but he couldn’t make it work this season.

Moyes has taken just four games to show that it was possible to get more out of this squad and make them an attacking unit, and has exposed Dyche as the one-dimensional manager he is. There’s nothing other than ‘defend at all costs’ in his greasy, egg-smeared toolbox.
 
I don’t think, without knowing them personally, we can really say either way.

I have to say, I’m quite surprised you’re defending Dyche so fiercely. I have always been squarely in Camp Moyes however I had no ill feeling toward Dyche, he did a good job when he came in and through the deductions.
Fella quit on his sword, like a coward, a greedy money grabbing coward is the legacy he leaves behind for me.
 

So did Lampard.

Doesn't mean they aren't both horrific managers who got us in the mess in the first place by being plop.

Definitely two of the worst but they're Franco Lampardo and Dychinho compared to the absolutely worst we've ever had - Mike Walker - and it's genuinely not even close

17% win rate?

Was appointed off the back of one decent season at Norwich and then sank and disappeared without a trace and retired in Cyprus after we jibbed him. Absolutely stole a living.
 
They weren’t sacking him quick enough for his liking and he wanted a payout but not to take us down.

That’s my take anyway.
Yeah I can imagine it was a death of a thousand cuts. He knew there was no way TFG were keeping him and he forced the issue. Probably phoning it in since the summer.
 
I don’t think, without knowing them personally, we can really say either way.

I have to say, I’m quite surprised you’re defending Dyche so fiercely. I have always been squarely in Camp Moyes however I had no ill feeling toward Dyche, he did a good job when he came in and through the deductions.

I think it's a matter of honour that we dont throw Dyche under the bus. He did his jib here and he achieved what he was hired to do - keep the club up. He was the only figure we had when the owners went missing and he took the burden of figurehead for us when he really should have had more help from a board who'd deserted him.
 
I think it's a matter of honour that we dont throw Dyche under the bus. He did his jib here and he achieved what he was hired to do - keep the club up. He was the only figure we had when the owners went missing and he took the burden of figurehead for us when he really should have had more help from a board who'd deserted him.
Couldn’t agree more with that.

We must also take care not to pretend there were no faults though. 24/25 under him was very near abysmal.
 

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