Current Affairs Critically ill man is former Russian spy

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Any rational person would.

It will be the default response if they aren't going to use the OPCW process; its one of the most important international treaties of the past forty years and one of the few things that almost all the world (bar the usual suspects) agrees on. To not use it invites contempt.
 
Putin is a strong leader of a weak country - all we have to do is get MI6 to give him some of his own medicine (for want of a better word) and once he's gone, some no-mark will take his place.
 
Putin would be far more likely to poison Corbyn than he would May; Corbyn would have cost him and his mates hundreds of millions of pounds.

Well, you think these London based Russian Tory donors would be enemies of Putin, and Putin is on record of stating his enemies will end up dead, however, far as I’m aware none of these rich Russian donors have passed away suddenly in unexplained circumstances.
 
Putin is a strong leader of a weak country - all we have to do is get MI6 to give him some of his own medicine (for want of a better word) and once he's gone, some no-mark will take his place.

I think everyone realises that its better for all concerned if he or his sort remain in charge of Russia for as long as possible; they weaken it by fleecing it.

If someone came along and sorted that country out we'd very quickly discover that it is basically the US on steroids.
 
I think everyone realises that its better for all concerned if he or his sort remain in charge of Russia for as long as possible; they weaken it by fleecing it.

If someone came along and sorted that country out we'd very quickly discover that it is basically the US on steroids.

I agree to an extent, however I think Russia's potential is often overstated, there are many factors that will prevent it from ever being able to compete with the US (or China in the coming decades).

An open & cooperative Russian state willing to engage on good terms with the West could be a huge force for good.
 
There were important differences - what the Russians said was that we had to provide samples and there would be a joint investigation (which is not what the CWC says) whereas what Corbyn said was that we should follow the procedure in Article 9 (2) of the CWC, which requires us where possible to discuss the matter first with the Russians and then refer it to the OPCW if their answers didn't satisfy.

Now the Guardian are reporting that our Government have said that "while it has the option of taking the case to the OPCW, it is under no obligation to do so", which should really set alarm bells ringing whoever you are and whatever side of British politics you are on, because there is absolutely no valid reason not to.

The USA have come out tonight and slated Russia at the UNSC. France and Germany hold similar views to the U.K. There is now a growing body of evidence of Russia behaving like a rogue state and overseeing the use of chemical weapons in the likes of Syria. These people need telling, it is not acceptable, and all those like Corbyn (not the Labour Party) should be ashamed of themselves for even suggesting some form of defence for this behaviour.......
 
The USA have come out tonight and slated Russia at the UNSC. France and Germany hold similar views to the U.K. There is now a growing body of evidence of Russia behaving like a rogue state and overseeing the use of chemical weapons in the likes of Syria. These people need telling, it is not acceptable, and all those like Corbyn (not the Labour Party) should be ashamed of themselves for even suggesting some form of defence for this behaviour.......

Corbyn did not suggest some form of defence for this behaviour, at any point in his speech. It is a complete fib to say that he did.

Here is the Hansard text of what he actually said:

I thank the Prime Minister for advance sight of her statement and echo her words about the service of our emergency and public services.

The attack in Salisbury was an appalling act of violence. Nerve agents are abominable if used in any war. It is utterly reckless to use them in a civilian environment. This attack in Britain has concerned our allies in the European Union, NATO and the UN, and their words of solidarity have strengthened our position diplomatically. Our response as a country must be guided by the rule of law, support for international agreements and respect for human rights. When it comes to the use of chemical weapons on British soil, it is essential that the Government work with the United Nations to strengthen its chemical weapons monitoring system and involve the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.

The Prime Minister said on Monday:

“either this was a direct act by the Russian state…or the Russian Government lost control of their potentially catastrophically damaging nerve agent and allowed it to get into the hands of others.”—[Official Report, 12 March 2018; Vol. 637, c. 620-21.]

Our response must be decisive, proportionate and based on clear evidence. If the Government believe that it is still a possibility that Russia negligently lost control of a military-grade nerve agent, what action is being taken through the OPCW with our allies? I welcome the fact that the police are working with the OPCW.

Has the Prime Minister taken the necessary steps under the chemical weapons convention to make a formal request for evidence from the Russian Government under article IX(2)? How has she responded to the Russian Government’s request for a sample of the agent used in the Salisbury attack to run their own tests? Has high-resolution trace analysis been run on a sample of the nerve agent, and has that revealed any evidence as to the location of its production or the identity of its perpetrators?

Can the Prime Minister update the House on what conversations, if any, she has had with the Russian Government? While suspending planned high-level contacts, does she agree that is essential to retain a robust dialogue with Russia, in the interests of our own and wider international security?

With many countries speaking out alongside us, the circumstances demand that we build an international consensus to address the use of chemical weapons. We should urge our international allies to join us in calling on Russia to reveal without delay full details of its chemical weapons programme to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons. It is, as we on the Labour Benches have expressed before, a matter of huge regret that our country’s diplomatic capacity has been stripped back, with cuts of 25% in the last five years. It is—[Interruption.]

I could not understand a word of what the Foreign Secretary just said, but his behaviour demeans his office.

It is in moments such as these that Governments realise how vital strong diplomacy and political pressure are for our security and national interest. The measures we take have to be effective, not just for the long-term security of our citizens but to secure a world free of chemical weapons. Can the Prime Minister outline what discussions she has had with our partners in the European Union, NATO and the UN and what willingness there was to take multilateral action? While the poisonings of Sergei and Yulia Skripal are confronting us today, what efforts are being made by the Government to reassess the death of Mr Skripal’s wife, Liudmila, who died in 2012, and the deaths of his elder brother and son in the past two years?

We have a duty to speak out against the abuse of human rights by the Putin Government and their supporters, both at home and abroad, and I join many others in this House in paying tribute to the many campaigners in Russia for human rights, justice and democracy in that country. We must do more to address the dangers posed by the state’s relationship with unofficial mafia-like groups and corrupt oligarchs. We must also expose the flows of ill-gotten cash between the Russian state and billionaires who become stupendously rich by looting their country and subsequently use London to protect their wealth. We welcome the Prime Minister today clearly committing to support the Magnitsky amendments and implementing them as soon as possible, as Labour has long pushed for.

Yesterday Nikolai Glushkov, a Russian exile who was close friends with the late oligarch Boris Berezovsky, was found dead in his London home. What reassurances can the Prime Minister give to citizens of Russian origin living in Britain that they are safe here?

The events in Salisbury earlier this month are abominable and have been rightly condemned across the House. Britain has to build a consensus with our allies, and we support the Prime Minister in taking multilateral and firm action to ensure that we strengthen the chemical weapons convention and that this dreadful, appalling act, which we totally condemn, never happens again in our country.

The way in which Corbyn has been abused because he had the nerve to ask what May had actually done, and why she had said some of the things that she said, is disgusting.
 
Corbyn did not suggest some form of defence for this behaviour, at any point in his speech. It is a complete fib to say that he did.

Here is the Hansard text of what he actually said:



The way in which Corbyn has been abused because he had the nerve to ask what May had actually done, and why she had said some of the things that she said, is disgusting.

No my friend, when he asked the question about whether or not we had passed on a sample to Russia, that was straight from the lips of Russia, and everyone in Westminster and watching on the TV knew it. It was disgraceful. Corbyn already knew the answer before the question, it was a blatant attempt to support the Russian position. This man has never uttered a single word to condemn Russia for all that it has done during the invasion of Crimea and the killing of Syrians never mind the poisoning of a British town. He is an apologist for some of the worst regimes on the planet while always willing to decry the U.K. ..........
 
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