Worst fielding and bowling I’ve seen in a very long time
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Toast
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I’ve loved this tournament. Cricket needs crowds. Especially the shorter formats.
Toast
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I’ve watched most games.
Got to know the players etc.
The couple of rule changes have been very good.
New batsman still has to face next ball even if they cross after a skied catch is a cracker. Gives the bowler a good chance.
My kids even watch it, even though they call the teams by their sponsors names rather than the gash names they have.
Pombears against Hula Hoops last night was a favourite of theirs !
I’ve enjoyed that out of most of it. Your not watching the same players as normal but some real good youngsters and county players about.
bcblue1878
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Surely that has to be it for Sibley for the foreseeable? Then Hameed misses a pretty straight one - wonder if he’ll get the chances that Sibley has had?
Sibley over Crawley genuinely makes no sense. The lad has no scoring shots
Feel a bit sorry for Hameed but that was poor technique playing across a straight ball
Feel a bit sorry for Hameed but that was poor technique playing across a straight ball
Need to get someone in for Sibley ASAP so they aren't going into the Ashes raw.
Absolutely not having that ball tracking. He was on his toes, well above the roll.
Chris O'Connor
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You've got to applaud the Indian openers who toiled in difficult conditions to set up a platform from which the rest of the side could collapse from. Credit to Jimmy once again with another fivefer with a few for the other seamers Ollie Robinson and Mark Wood. Ollie Robinson looks the real deal to me.
Sibley limited as he is at least battles hard but just hasn't got it unfortunately, his soft dismissal was a carbon copy of Nottingham.
Burns to me has another gear when truly in and far more to his game than Sibley or indeed Crawley, Lawrence and the group of other young wannabies who are all just potential and no real record of achievement atm. Burns has been around a while at Surrey and is a consistent achiever, still the best of a poor bunch of alternatives.
Hammed didn't just play along the wrong line to s straight one so much as play an imaginary ball nowhere near the vicinity of the ball bowled. I can only assume he was in a daze fill of nerves and was seeing double. it's hard for a test opener or number three to miss a ball by such a margin when it does nothing at all.
Captain fantastic Joe Root is a one man batting line up atm, He and Stokes are the only two world class batsmen iEnglsnd have team and head and are shoulders above the rest. So in Stokes absence we've only got Joe, thank goodness he's still there. Jonny Bairstow is capable, exerienced and responsible, he has to continue Burns' good work as they desperately need this partnership to prosper.
England's day by a long way but they were so far behind the gain line after day one that they've still got it all to do.
Sibley limited as he is at least battles hard but just hasn't got it unfortunately, his soft dismissal was a carbon copy of Nottingham.
Burns to me has another gear when truly in and far more to his game than Sibley or indeed Crawley, Lawrence and the group of other young wannabies who are all just potential and no real record of achievement atm. Burns has been around a while at Surrey and is a consistent achiever, still the best of a poor bunch of alternatives.
Hammed didn't just play along the wrong line to s straight one so much as play an imaginary ball nowhere near the vicinity of the ball bowled. I can only assume he was in a daze fill of nerves and was seeing double. it's hard for a test opener or number three to miss a ball by such a margin when it does nothing at all.
Captain fantastic Joe Root is a one man batting line up atm, He and Stokes are the only two world class batsmen iEnglsnd have team and head and are shoulders above the rest. So in Stokes absence we've only got Joe, thank goodness he's still there. Jonny Bairstow is capable, exerienced and responsible, he has to continue Burns' good work as they desperately need this partnership to prosper.
England's day by a long way but they were so far behind the gain line after day one that they've still got it all to do.
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Chris O'Connor
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Yes real credit to the openers for setting up the platform for the rest of the side to collapse from. Rahul and his partner seemed to be batting on a different wicket from the rest of the side.
They should have batted England out of the game given that platform but that collapse was mega and just showed how well the openers did. Jimmy Anderson, Joe Root and Rory Burns (before his late dismissal) have brought England right back into it.
BigMick
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Agree with you about the openers. India's have immaculate techniques - I thought England bowled well enough here and in the 2nd innings at Trent bridge to have taken early wickets, but they kept them at bay. England would probably have been 2 or 3 down.
In contrast, both England openers have at best 'quirky' techniques. Sibley had one good season with it in county cricket, while Burns has, as you say, made it work over a longer period. Both, though, are deeply flawed and give the bowlers obvious weaknesses to work on.
I remember years ago reading an interview with Neil Fairbrother where he said his technique when he finished playing was far less correct than when he began as a teenager. he reckoned it was to do with playing day in, day out on variable county pitches and having to find ways to score consistently. So there's nothing wrong with having slight quirks in technique but for me both Burns and definitely Sibley are too unorthodox. I notice Surrey have a young batsman called Ryan Patel - watch him bat and he's a replica of Burns, complete with ludicrous head movement - I can't believe the coaches are allowing him to mimic him rather than a more technically correct player.
Hammed - I wouldn't judge any player on one ball, though I was less convinced than some by what I've seen of him in county cricket this season.
Good summary that mate.
I'm not going to personally slaughter Sibley as I've said a lot about him before, but just to add in, his technique is currently shot. He got out to what was a leg stump half volley. If you look at his positioning, hes falling over as he plays it, his weight is not over the ball and his hands are in a terrible position way out in front. Tbe key to good batting is to keep your balance, weight for the ball to come to you and hit it while your body weight is over it.
I'll give him some props here, which is this is how likely a consequence of a player with not only not a great technique but a frazzled brain. He is pushing at the ball, as you do when you lose all confidence. He cant defend decent balls, and 3 or 4 went past his outside edge, and its not effecting his leg side play. I just cant see how he stays in over Crawley, or frankly Ollie Pope. I know neither are perfect, but they at least look like they have the basics to be test match batsmen.
As for Hameeb, he will be disappointed. It was a full ball on middle stump. I'd probably agree with nervous energy. He took his guard multiple times and probably forgot to watch the ball closely as you become a bit flustered. I also wonder, with his lack of height if hes susceptible to the full ball?
The selectors have already looked pretty stupid dropping Crawley/Pope etc for these 2. Hameeb could get them out of jail, but I just dont see it with Sibley.
As for England, still well in this game. I hope the middle/lower order play their natural game and are positive.