Bairstow picked again hahahahah
Jesus Christ. Jobs for the boys or what
Jesus Christ. Jobs for the boys or what
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Chris O'Connor
Player Valuation: £35m
No Stokes, no Archer, no Woakes, no chance. Although England normally murder India at home with some very one sided results, not this time.
(4-1 last time but a ridiculously one sided aggregate of around 13-3 in the last few indian tours - almost always against what the pundits predicted too).
England's policy of rotating a confident winning test side into a weak wimpish shadow of a team has had predictable results. While Stokes problems are being dealt with with understanding, and absence unavoidable, rotation has been the continuing policy ostensibly to avoid player burnout and proper player management. The problem is that a team should play their best available against the best opposition in iconic series and rest against lesser teams, England do the opposite
The top six is filled with those who might do something in the future rather than now, it seems anyone who does anything at county level gets a shot nowadays. County cricket has never been test cricket because the big test match pressure can't be replicated and bowlers always give you enough loose scoring balls. The rotation policy always seems to be with an eye to the future while disregarding the present. The rot started when 1-0 in India and sending Buttler and Bairstow home, experience was needed but disregarded. youth and inexperience will do the job the expectation.
It won't.
I feel for Joe Root the most in all of this.
He's the man having to front all of it, virtually never being given a full strength squad and that second test against New Zealand was among the worst performances I've seen from an England team at home in years. Guys like Sibley, Crawley, Burns, Pope (or seemingly virtually any young inexperienced kid who shows a flicker of potential in the county game) have it all to prove and it just feels very green. Very prone to collapse
(4-1 last time but a ridiculously one sided aggregate of around 13-3 in the last few indian tours - almost always against what the pundits predicted too).
England's policy of rotating a confident winning test side into a weak wimpish shadow of a team has had predictable results. While Stokes problems are being dealt with with understanding, and absence unavoidable, rotation has been the continuing policy ostensibly to avoid player burnout and proper player management. The problem is that a team should play their best available against the best opposition in iconic series and rest against lesser teams, England do the opposite
The top six is filled with those who might do something in the future rather than now, it seems anyone who does anything at county level gets a shot nowadays. County cricket has never been test cricket because the big test match pressure can't be replicated and bowlers always give you enough loose scoring balls. The rotation policy always seems to be with an eye to the future while disregarding the present. The rot started when 1-0 in India and sending Buttler and Bairstow home, experience was needed but disregarded. youth and inexperience will do the job the expectation.
It won't.
I feel for Joe Root the most in all of this.
He's the man having to front all of it, virtually never being given a full strength squad and that second test against New Zealand was among the worst performances I've seen from an England team at home in years. Guys like Sibley, Crawley, Burns, Pope (or seemingly virtually any young inexperienced kid who shows a flicker of potential in the county game) have it all to prove and it just feels very green. Very prone to collapse
Root wins the toss and bats. No spinner though which is very strange
Burns
Sibley
Crawley
Root
Bairstow
Lawrence
Buttler
Curran
Robinson
Broad
Anderson
Burns
Sibley
Crawley
Root
Bairstow
Lawrence
Buttler
Curran
Robinson
Broad
Anderson
Very strange indeed. One eye on the weather forecast maybe? Lots of rain expected after today...
Another duck for an opener. Not good enough
Chris O'Connor
Player Valuation: £35m
Lots of rain predicted, shortened match possibly ideal for seamers so why waste a place on a spinner given our major, major inexperienced batting, weakest link is the batting by miles ?
I just think if you want to be good on a sustained basis then you need to pick a balanced side. This balance of side will lose 4 or 5 nil in Australia, and probably lose this series too.
The batting won't score runs regardless of who is picked. There's a good chance Leach lasts as long as some of the top order!
Chris O'Connor
Player Valuation: £35m
Losing series after series while thinking about the future will make that future worse not better. Of course think about now and what suits now to win matches now, not everything is about the ashes. England's fixation about the ashes is doing them lots of harm not good
Chris O'Connor
Player Valuation: £35m
Leach bats down the order for a reason, he's limited even as a tailender. If the pitch is likely to be heavily in favour of seam in a severely curtailed game with no spin on offer then its just perverse to insist on a spinner.
You also have to factor in Root is an ok spinner. I think I said last summer I wasn't wholly convinced by Bess and in honesty I'm not sure Root is much behind him. The reality is, in England you get very limited value out of a spinner so they really need to be able top perform a dual function. I'm surprised they haven't re-considered Moeen Ali (who's record in England is fantastic) and could probably bat at 6/7 and give you an option.
To slightly contradict myself, the one I would look at would be Parkinson at Lancs who really seems to have something about him. The drawback is that he doesn't bat at all, but he looks like he could be a match winner to me.
I think the murder comment is probably a little bit strong Chris, the 4-1 scoreline flattered England last time (I thought it was 3-1) and there were a lot of close games. It was actually a really enjoyable series with most games and days going down to the line.
Losing Woakes (not sure what's happened to him) Stokes and Archer is enormous though. Probably England's 2nd best batsman and a solid bowler, and 2 of their frontline bowlers is a big loss. They would all be playing for me. It's a big opportunity here for Sam Curran to push his way into this team, I'm a big fan of his, but given the games he has played he probably has to start showing some consistency here.
I've been quite open that I'm not convinced about the opening pair at all, and would have probably dropped one of those for Pope (who I just see as having higher upside). I'm not sure Burns is getting any better and in honesty I'm not sure Sibley is. Both have played 30+ innings now and average around 30 and 33.
The rotation point is correct. I don't think they've managed the team well at all. Bairstow was in great form and taken out of the team when he was playing well. I don't see much sense in that at all. Then he's out, now he's back in again.
Crawley still looks a really good player to me. I'm glad England have stuck with him. He's definitely one I would persevere with.
BigMick
Player Valuation: £20m
Another absolutely rubbish innings by Sibley. What is the point of someone who needs to bat over 2 sessions to make a 50