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It's the Lords snobbery brigade ..... a slap on the wrist a fine would have been sufficient - I have worked with all creeds of people some like the banter some don't - you have to be professional - 15 years ago is a long time ago - wrong, but it was odds on he would be banned in the pc world of this era.....
All lives matter .......discrimination can happen to anyone in this world ......
AsiaAsia82
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I think it’s more the ECB aren’t accused of being soft on racism or homophobia. Or protests outside the next test by 000.1% of the population who think Twitter is the voice of the world.
Not sure how many people actually read those tweets at the time.
Not sure how much someone was paid for searching and finding them either.
This is where the real message is lost on some people who think it’s not really addressing the problem today and is just daft
Not sure how many people actually read those tweets at the time.
Not sure how much someone was paid for searching and finding them either.
This is where the real message is lost on some people who think it’s not really addressing the problem today and is just daft
It wasn't 15 years ago.
The Lords brigade most likely agree with his misogyny given their very recent history, this idea that it is the elite pushing down on you when you are asked to stop using hateful bigoted talk is nonsense.
The concept that discrimination is indiscriminative is very odd inded.
For the record I'm not sure retrospectively punishing people for tweets they made in their teens is a good idea and would leave it to the management and his employers to sort this out. By all accounts it seems Robinson has shown lots of growth since then and realised what you term as banter isn't fit for public discourse
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Oh well....
Had a long bowl last night of maybe 8 or 9 overs and my body feels like it's falling apart this morning. And it's fair to say I've lost more than a yard or 10 of pace as well.
I have a new found even greater respect for Jimmy Anderson this morning. How is he still doing it at that level at 39.
I have a new found even greater respect for Jimmy Anderson this morning. How is he still doing it at that level at 39.
The mad thing is how he looks in the field, doesn't move at all like a 39 year old
….but how did you do, Tim?
Just a training game out in the middle. Only had 7 fielders and a keeper but I went for a lot of runs (and bowled quite a few wides!). Got a couple of wickets but that was probably more through the batsmen being surprised one had landed in the right area
He was 19. An adult. I don't know why we live in a society that molly coddles adults and treats them like they are 7 or 8 year old kids who don't know right from wrong. Take some responsibility for your actions for goodness sake (sorry it gets me got under the collar this when people try and divert away from what they have done on spurious grounds!).
He was a grown man. I'm sorry 19 is not a child and it's high time as a society we stopped thinking it was.
Forget all the homophobic, sexist and racist nonsense but what to me has been missed are the disgraceful tweets he made about Gary Speed's suicide. Anyone who knows anything about Gary Speed will testify to what a decent, principled man he was. And he and his family have to suffer the indignity of not only some little no mark poking fun at him and his family but then lacking the decency to take any responsibility for it and making out that he was a child when he was an adult man when he did it. It's really poor conduct IMO
I'm sure he will be cleared, but in honesty when Stokes, Curran, Woakes are back (as well as Archer) he's not going to be picked anyway. I'm sure some will twist it, but he's a back up guy.
Paris
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Still, at 19 I posted something along the lines of checking out Pippa Middleton's arse at the Royal Wedding. Completely unacceptable for me, or anyone, to say such a thing now and rightfully so, however back then I didn't think anything of it. I also doubt rappers and Hip-Hop artists think anything of it when they objectify women in their songs, or indeed write homophobic lyrics.
"Let anyone among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone" and all that.
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Of course it's unacceptable, but you are at least owning up to it and saying it is your responsibility and not trying to make out that at 19 you are not an adult. I can't have this idea that 19 year old's don't have any responsibility.
It's also worth saying that saying you looked at someone's bum is very different to saying you are going to masturbate on someone's face when they are sleeping, or that all Asian people are bombers, or laughing at a footballer who has killed himself. They are really different things. I've never laughed at someone who has taken their own life, as it's a really scummy thing to do. I think of Roger Speed and wonder what he thinks seeing that? Or Gary Speeds kids. Have they not suffered enough?
Lets not try and equate talking about someone's bum in with that nonsense.
Paris
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They're both completely unacceptable comments to make. What I have a problem with however is that being used against me now. Even though I recognise that it's wrong, it still won't be enough in the eyes of many.
I don't think many people are saying you're wrong though? The topic of discussion is what Ollie Robinson has said, and how he seems to want to weasel out of it by making out that he was a child at 19. People have died for their country at that age FCS.