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On its most basic level it's pretty obvious continually making new vehicles leaves a massive carbon footprint alone.

You're dead right and I've been saying it for ages - the focus on emissions neglects other environmental pollutants inherent in vehicle manufacturing and ownership.

Fairly obvious vehicles need to be taxed in some way, no big deal. Road duty is significant and its utterly unsustainable to let 'clean vehicles' go tax free for ever.

The unpalatable truth is that our lifestyles need to fundamentally change to be more sustainable. A lot of these schemes and legislation do very very little or are a distraction.

This is precisely why I know we are probably doomed.
Just take a look through this thread, too many people aren't willing to make even the slightest change to their lifestyles, its as if they expect environmental schemes to be specifically based around them. On top of that throw right wing ideology of demonising science and expertise and the struggle becomes gigantic
 
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Just take a look through this thread, too many people aren't willing to make even the slightest change to their lifestyles, its as if they expect environmental schemes to be specifically based around them. On top of that throw right wing ideology of demonising science and expertise and the struggle becomes gigantic
1000 times this.
 
National Grid is poised to pay households to cut their power demand tomorrow to avert power cuts as it prepares to activate its winter emergency electricity plan for the first time.

Its electricity system operator has warned the market it may need to use its new "demand flexibility service", a contingency scheme aimed at reducing household consumption when supply is tight.

It raises the prospect of households being asked to turn off their televisions when England face Wales in their crucial final World Cup group game on Tuesday night.

Low temperatures and outages on France's nuclear power fleet are set to put pressure on power supplies, according to market experts Enappsys.

Under the DFS scheme, National Grid will pay households to cut power demand by, for example, stopping running the washing machine or dishwasher until the supply crunch has eased.

Households which have signed up to the programme in advance will get a message asking them to turn off appliances at a certain time in exchange for £3 per kilowatt-hour saved. If the £3 is fully passed on by the suppliers to customers, that implies payments of up to £20 for each day when requested by National Grid.






20 quid a day to sit in the dark isnt bad tho I suppose.
 
Listening to R2 at lunchtime, thousands of people have accumulated massive credit balances with the power companies, but they seem reluctant to give refunds. We’re in the same boat, as I suspect many of you are, we’re £570 in credit, it’s ridiculous.
Not to defend those horrid vultures at all.

But I think everybody is rocking fat credit cos in a few months that will all be eaten up.
 
It's quite an old concept, albeit one that isn't widely implemented.

Me being bad minded, I would suggest that this was all just a way of making people aware of the scheme.

I mean I joked, a little, but im pretty sure there millions of people out there who would gladly sit in the cold and dark for an extra 20 quid, I mean people do it for free anyway.

Sorry, its not even free, cos just having electric and gas in the house costs you money, even if you dont use it.
 
Me being bad minded, I would suggest that this was all just a way of making people aware of the scheme.

I mean I joked, a little, but im pretty sure there millions of people out there who would gladly sit in the cold and dark for an extra 20 quid, I mean people do it for free anyway.

Sorry, its not even free, cos just having electric and gas in the house costs you money, even if you dont use it.
As with many of these things, the devil is in the detail, but the theory behind negawatts is that you have a target, and if you consume less than the target you get money back, if you consume more than the target you have to pay. Ordinarily the target wouldn't be set such that it's practically zero but maybe the equivalent of turning your thermostat down a degree or two.

It's a similar concept to that of negative income taxes (which also hasn't really taken off)

 
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