We do. Politicians listen to the scientific advise, doesn't mean they entirely follow it.
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What would your advice be, as a scientist?
luuk_deventer
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Like when the JCVI advised against vaccinating 12-15 year olds?
And the politicians pushed on with plans to vaccinate 5 year olds?
Covid-19: JCVI opts not to recommend universal vaccination of 12-15 year olds
The UK’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) has not recommended that all young people aged 12-15 are given the covid-19 vaccination, and it has instead asked ministers to seek further advice from the UK’s chief medical officers on the wider potential benefits of vaccination...
We have come full circle. Good that we agree that we should follow that science and that children should not be vaccinated.
I'm not a scientist.
You might want to read the linkLike when the JCVI advised against vaccinating 12-15 year olds?
And the politicians pushed on with plans to vaccinate 5 year olds?
Covid-19: JCVI opts not to recommend universal vaccination of 12-15 year olds
The UK’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) has not recommended that all young people aged 12-15 are given the covid-19 vaccination, and it has instead asked ministers to seek further advice from the UK’s chief medical officers on the wider potential benefits of vaccination...www.bmj.com
We have come full circle. Good that we agree that we should follow that science and that children should not be vaccinated.
luuk_deventer
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I have read. It does not recommend vaccination for 12-15 year olds.
Far be it for me to tell you how to read, but you're missing the "all"
The MMR vaccine isn't recommend for everyone.
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Doubt I'll be getting my kids vaccinated against Covid at this point in time. My son has it at the moment, according to the daily LFTs we're having to do, and he's not even a tiny bit ill. Seems silly to give them unnecessary medication, whatever it is.
I'm entirely pro-vax, triple jabbed, and my kids have had all their usual jabs.
I don't see this one as necessary at this point in time. If the situation changes I'd consider it.
I'm entirely pro-vax, triple jabbed, and my kids have had all their usual jabs.
I don't see this one as necessary at this point in time. If the situation changes I'd consider it.
Like when the JCVI advised against vaccinating 12-15 year olds?
And the politicians pushed on with plans to vaccinate 5 year olds?
Covid-19: JCVI opts not to recommend universal vaccination of 12-15 year olds
The UK’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) has not recommended that all young people aged 12-15 are given the covid-19 vaccination, and it has instead asked ministers to seek further advice from the UK’s chief medical officers on the wider potential benefits of vaccination...
We have come full circle. Good that we agree that we should follow that science and that children should not be vaccinated.
JCVI updates advice on vaccinations for 5 to 11 age group
The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) has updated its vaccination advice for children aged 5 to 11, with a view to increasing protection against potential future waves of coronavirus (COVID-19).
Awkward
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Absolute rag.
Politics vs public health in a nutshell.
Has been in the top 10 causes of death of US kids all last year, particularly bad during Delta
COVID-19 leading cause of death ranking - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker
Note: For our prior analysis on COVID-19 mortality preventable by vaccines, click here. This brief examines how deaths from COVID-19 rank among other leading causes of death in the U.S. At the time of this brief, COVID-19 is on track to be the third leading cause of death in the U.S. for the...
www.healthsystemtracker.org
Hospitalizations Associated with COVID-19 Among Children...
COVID-19–associated hospitalization rates among children and adolescents increased with the Delta variant.
www.cdc.gov
COVID-19 can cause severe illness in children and adolescents.
What is added by this report?
Weekly COVID-19–associated hospitalization rates among children and adolescents rose nearly five-fold during late June–mid-August 2021, coinciding with increased circulation of the highly transmissible SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant. The proportions of hospitalized children and adolescents with severe disease were similar before and during the period of Delta predominance. Hospitalization rates were 10 times higher among unvaccinated than among fully vaccinated adolescents.
you might have peer reviewed scientific reports, but @luuk_deventer has a laughing emoji and The Daily Telegraph...Has been in the top 10 causes of death of US kids all last year, particularly bad during Delta
COVID-19 leading cause of death ranking - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker
Note: For our prior analysis on COVID-19 mortality preventable by vaccines, click here. This brief examines how deaths from COVID-19 rank among other leading causes of death in the U.S. At the time of this brief, COVID-19 is on track to be the third leading cause of death in the U.S. for the...
What is already known about this topic?Hospitalizations Associated with COVID-19 Among Children...
COVID-19–associated hospitalization rates among children and adolescents increased with the Delta variant.
COVID-19 can cause severe illness in children and adolescents.
What is added by this report?
Weekly COVID-19–associated hospitalization rates among children and adolescents rose nearly five-fold during late June–mid-August 2021, coinciding with increased circulation of the highly transmissible SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant. The proportions of hospitalized children and adolescents with severe disease were similar before and during the period of Delta predominance. Hospitalization rates were 10 times higher among unvaccinated than among fully vaccinated adolescents.
Tough to know which is more credible
Your wrong mate. Ive already explained and posted a copy of the certification and clinical reasoning for the variety of outcomes, of which they aren’t always Covid or not as binary outcome like you suggest.
This article is from the BMJ, which supports the points I was making in regard to certification. I’d suggest it may be more indicative of the clinical reality, than articles from the Daily Mail and Telegraph, even press briefings from politicians. It also has many links in the footnotes
David Oliver: Mistruths and misunderstandings about covid-19 death numbers
I want to set the record straight about some serious misinformation surrounding covid-19 death certification and mortality statistics. I will paraphrase some of the claims that I have heard repeatedly in the media: “People are not dying from, but with, covid-19.” “Deaths classified as from...
If anything I think the U.K. have underported the extent of RIP’s. The 28 day cut off point from testing positive, always troubled me and I don’t think it’s clinically reflective of virus progression. Simply put if you die 29 days after a positive test you are not counted.
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luuk_deventer
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How likely is this to happen given how frequently hospitals tested patients during their stay?
Very, particularly amongst the unvaccinated, read the article, particularly amongst unvaccinated who can spend long weeks in critical care and ICU, we know they have a higher mortality rate than vaccinated pro rata to.
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