Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Bruce Wayne]

I think people should be free to express any crack pot view they want politically.

Having said that though I believe that a line should be drawn when people are posting stuff that could either actively discourage people from getting vaccinated or just encourage them not to bother.

I agree. Someone the other day was suggesting that fatties would be sent off to camps. I was speechless.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

I think people should be free to express any crack pot view they want politically.

Having said that though I believe that a line should be drawn when people are posting stuff that could either actively discourage people from getting vaccinated or just encourage them not to bother.

That works both ways though doesnt it?

I mean people calling for unvaccinated people to be removed from participating in society etc because they dont want to take something that was knocked up within 12 months and is emergency issued is equally dangerous isnt it?

Covid has brought the worst out in society politically speaking.

 

[micknick]

The Deaths from yesterday were over 5 days apparently. Someone said to me the other day what’s the point in the vaccines they don’t make a difference, you can still get it and die from it. ?

 

[COYBL25]

Can omicron penetrate excessive makeup?

Yes, but it can`t get through duck lips, horse eye lashes or Dracula eye brows.

 

[woomy]

I think people should be free to express any crack pot view they want politically.

Having said that though I believe that a line should be drawn when people are posting stuff that could either actively discourage people from getting vaccinated or just encourage them not to bother.

This is true.
Your entitled to your opinion.
Don't mean I have to respect it.
I might think your opinion is batpoo crazy makes you look like an idiot.
But your entitled to state it all you like.

In all seriousness, in today's world, people like to have their opinion and scream about having it, stating it is fact, but not respect others opinion who might not agree.

 

[mill]

This is true.
Your entitled to your opinion.
Don't mean I have to respect it.
I might think your opinion is batpoo crazy makes you look like an idiot.
But your entitled to state it all you like.

In all seriousness, in today's world, people like to have their opinion and scream about having it, stating it is fact, but not respect others opinion who might not agree.

there is a massive difference between 'opinion' and spamming a forum with misinformation.

opinion is only respected if it is informed and considered. not when it's just random ranting with no real justification.

that's the thing, I don't have to respect anybody's opinion if it is fundamentally flawed and ignorant.

 

[toffee82]

I do wonder if the increased risk of leprosy makes it worthwhile though. I need Katie Hopkins to help guide me.

I merged this with the fake tan penetration and an image of Katie Hopkins guiding me in is seared into my brain.

It's horrible so I thought I'd share so others can experience the sheer terror.

 

[efcfanwirral]

Can omicron penetrate excessive makeup?

To be fair maybe that and the other powder will block it...

 

[JLW]

Can omicron penetrate excessive makeup?

Not if you put it on 2 meters away from the mirror.

 

[verreauxi]

meanwhile:

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[Martin Alvito]

I think people should be free to express any crack pot view they want politically.

Having said that though I believe that a line should be drawn when people are posting stuff that could either actively discourage people from getting vaccinated or just encourage them not to bother.

This is more or less the standard freedom of speech take. The problem is determining where the line for shouting "Fire" in a crowded theater is.

We don't let people jeopardize the personal safety of others with speech, and unfortunately speech on social media has become a new battlefront in interstate conflict (thanks, Hillary). On the one hand, we don't want social media to become just another government mouthpiece, the way China wants it to be. On the other hand, we equally don't want it to be full of enemy propaganda.

Western societies are dealing with this new problem in their usual slow, scattershot and discombobulated way. Until we blunder into a solution like a man fumbling around in the dark for his glasses, which is generally how democratic societies solve problems, the burden is going to rest on individuals to stand up to the nonsense.

 

[BlueToff]

Good update on the general numbers

 

[Martin Alvito]

That works both ways though doesnt it?

I mean people calling for unvaccinated people to be removed from participating in society etc because they dont want to take something that was knocked up within 12 months and is emergency issued is equally dangerous isnt it?

Covid has brought the worst out in society politically speaking.

Interesting question.

At some point, doesn't a society have the right to protect itself from individuals who might not share the broader risk preferences of society at large, but who also pose a legitimate danger to others through enhanced probability of virus spread?

I share your concerns, think they're wholly legitimate and think that you have the right to demand that they be followed up on and the results published. The vaccine manufacturers won't, because they're facing a strict liability standard and a massive downside risk, so the government has to step in.

That said, the best information currently available suggests that the risk calculus on the vaccine is a no-brainer, and that those who refuse it are posing a clear and present danger to themselves and others through that refusal. Historically, quarantine is the solution under those circumstances.

Where I get off the boat with respect to your side of the fence is when people start spreading misinformation in order to try to justify not having to suffer social consequences for their decisions. That's reckless and dangerous. It puts them in the moral position, if they are successful in convincing others and they turn out to be wrong about the risks, of being complicit in deaths, long term disabilities and other outcomes that didn't have to happen.

 

[verreauxi]

This has started to bother me.

I think it’s dangerous.

But to be honest, having sacked off social media aside from forums already, I’m considering sacking it all of entirely. I’m not sure the positives outweigh the negatives anymore.

Either a sad lonely character with a massive case of Dunning-Kruger or a disinfo-for-hire type.

 

[Walken]

The last couple of pages have seen a genuinely interesting discussion break out and its been a great read, the unifying force of dholliday being the worst person on the Internet has had a surprisingly positive impact