Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Wow.

Just popped into this thread for the first time in a while. Can’t believe some of the nonsense flying about with the likes of Toby ‘the pandemic is over’ Young being cited as sources.

Given the subject matter, and how important it is for all of us that we all get vaccinated, it makes me pretty angry that the site is being used as an amplifier for cranks.
This has started to bother me.

I think it’s dangerous.

But to be honest, having sacked off social media aside from forums already, I’m considering sacking it all of entirely. I’m not sure the positives outweigh the negatives anymore.
 
Yeah, I can imagine people who have had side effects such as you wouldn't bother.

The get boosted etc message will just get weaker after each one

I've felt fine after every one I've have had so it's just an hour or so off work for me.

I suspect more would be open for a 1st and 2nd booster if on the campaigns to go get them it was clearly explained why to get them as I reckon most people don’t understand what they do.
 
Yeah, I can imagine people who have had side effects such as you wouldn't bother.

The get boosted etc message will just get weaker after each one

I've felt fine after every one I've have had so it's just an hour or so off work for me.

Yeah it's not the immediate side effects that bothered me. I can handle feeling a bit naff for a few hours. It was more with the second one the longer term thing. It may well be because I'd had covid and that's why I felt the way I did for so long... but now I've had COVID again I'm not sure I wanna keep taking that risk. Will definitely get my third though, just be end of Jan now.
 
Given the subject matter, and how important it is for all of us that we all get vaccinated, it makes me pretty angry that the site is being used as an amplifier for cranks.
It's the hazard of establishing a "moderation-free zone" for the purposes of permitting political discourse free of censorship. There are some astonishingly scummy actors out there today who will say absolutely anything in order to push their political point of view.

That is not GOT's fault, and the site doesn't have Facebook's billions that we can demand be thrown at the problem. It leaves us in the position, as individuals, to stand up to the lies.

It's encouraging, to me, that so many of us do it. I'd like to see more of this happen in everyday life. People are (reasonably?) so afraid of social consequences that they let nonsense like this pass or heavily water down criticism, when I see people say this stuff in person.
 
There’s an interesting rhetorical tactic, often used by conspiracy types, known as Gish Galloping.

It’s analogous to the Trump tactic of lying so often, that by the time someone is halfway through addressing the first 10 inaccurate statements, they’ve already moved on to the next 10.

Worth bearing in mind why someone might do this.

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This is a very good point. "Winning" a rhetorical argument is a zero-sum game. Logically speaking, only one participant can ever have the preponderance of the evidence on their side, if absolute truth exists. (It is possible that neither side does, if equal weight of evidence exists or we're talking about something that boils down to pure preference).

This leaves someone really determined to "win" but defending a weak position armed with nothing but sophistry. We should probably infer something about character, when we observe someone resorting to it.
 
There’s an interesting rhetorical tactic, often used by conspiracy types, known as Gish Galloping.

It’s analogous to the Trump tactic of lying so often, that by the time someone is halfway through addressing the first 10 inaccurate statements, they’ve already moved on to the next 10.

Worth bearing in mind why someone might do this.

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What I don’t really get is the aim or motive. What is it trying to achieve?

Is it just to spam for the purpose of attrition? To create apathy?

I don’t see the virtue of ignorance but it seems to be highly regarded by a large number of people.
 
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