Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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grandjoeblue said:
How are we going to get the unvaccinated to catch up on their jabs?

They are woefully under prepared for the super variant.

The anxi vaxxers seem to have went to extreme levels now by claiming vaccines don't work at all.
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Seems like it’s the vaxxers that have gone to the extreme.

4 jabs, what happens on the next variant, another 2 jabs?
 
grandjoeblue said:
There might be a way we can prepare the anti vaxxers with 3 doses (2 current vaccine + one for new strain). I'm not a doctor but I would suggest that we need jabs in arms within the next 14 days.
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We’ve had jabs in arms for the past 12 months and look where we are mate. People worried Christmas will be cancelled.
 
4th shot for vunerable?

So the science is wrong about the booster then? That goes against everything they said time frame wise.

So are we not at the point of jabbing for the sake of it now? If we are doing it within a 3 month time frame?

At current rate we will all need a vaccination every 3 months as a precaution. Can you see an entire population doing that or at the very least questioning it?

Because I will question that. Taking it too far when all data provided suggests it's not needed. Covid cases lowest in the elderly and hospital cases are filtering down to unvaccinated only. So a 3 month jab is clearly not needed when the fear is that the jab won't potentially work.

Like I said earlier, the more you over vaccinate, the more the crazy people seem to have a point.
 
Ghost Rider said:
4th shot for vunerable?

So the science is wrong about the booster then? That goes against everything they said time frame wise.

So are we not at the point of jabbing for the sake of it now? If we are doing it within a 3 month time frame?

At current rate we will all need a vaccination every 3 months as a precaution. Can you see an entire population doing that or at the very least questioning it?

Because I will question that. Taking it too far when all data provided suggests it's not needed. Covid cases lowest in the elderly and hospital cases are filtering down to unvaccinated only. So a 3 month jab is clearly not needed when the fear is that the jab won't potentially work.

Like I said earlier, the more you over vaccinate, the more the crazy people seem to have a point.
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Not new news Israel was on it's 4th even before we began our booster program...
 
woomy said:
I will tell you right now what you have. Inflamed bursa. It will come under the umbrella term SIRVA. Although when they see you, they will tell you it's not. Demand an ultrasound. You may have a fight on your hands. But if you can get a scan it Will more them likely show your bursa is inflamed. With your timeline of events. The injection was likely too high up. If they don't scan you demand one, if they still refuse, get a private one done. They may try to fob you off with you have a shoulder issue and try to give you rehab exercises. It will do diddly squat. Months of anti Inflammatory medication is the way to go or cortisone. Although cortisone is hit and miss with it. You will want ultrasound guided cortisone injection. Where they put the needle exactly into the heart of the inflammation.
Did it hurt more than normal when getting the jab?
If it is that, and you get a confirmation, you could look at claiming for clinical negligence.
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SIRVA can be caused by any vaccination right? Not just COVID one?
 
Ghost Rider said:
4th shot for vunerable?

So the science is wrong about the booster then? That goes against everything they said time frame wise.

So are we not at the point of jabbing for the sake of it now? If we are doing it within a 3 month time frame?

At current rate we will all need a vaccination every 3 months as a precaution. Can you see an entire population doing that or at the very least questioning it?

Because I will question that. Taking it too far when all data provided suggests it's not needed. Covid cases lowest in the elderly and hospital cases are filtering down to unvaccinated only. So a 3 month jab is clearly not needed when the fear is that the jab won't potentially work.

Like I said earlier, the more you over vaccinate, the more the crazy people seem to have a point.
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So a vulnerable person can either sit at 3 and be at increased risk of dying/severe illness or they can have a 4th shot. What's the problem exactly?
 
NathDogg said:
How long before capacity at large events is reduced do we think, with Omicron kicking off?

Might ask for it to start on Wednesday!
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Haha I think the liverpool and arsenal games will be OK - they usually give a decent few days notice for these things. Leicester might even be ok if they hold back on events and hospitality til closer to Christmas, but I'm guessing Newcastle through to March time in the more optimistic scenario.
 
Billy Dean said:
SIRVA can be caused by any vaccination right? Not just COVID one?
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Yes.
It's not what is in it, it's the injection itself.
You can get a fair idea if it is affecting you. Did the injection hurt more than mormal? Did you feel it was too high up your arm? Did you get pain around 2 days after the injection? Is the pain lasting a while?
Yes to them? It's likely it's Sirva. But proving it is another matter.
If your getting pains, in your upper arm doing mundane regular stuff like throwing a ball, opening a door. Holding your dog back when on a lead. Then chances are your bursa is inflamed. Got to get it checked. Cause it ain't going nowhere.

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If you can prove it. Then it is classed as clinical negligence with which you might be able to make a claim. Certainly something I am looking at. 6 months with it now. The government has a compo scheme where if you lose 60% of the function of your arm, you can claim £120k I think it is. But like I say. You got to prove it is the injection.
 
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Ghost Rider said:
4th shot for vunerable?

So the science is wrong about the booster then? That goes against everything they said time frame wise.

So are we not at the point of jabbing for the sake of it now? If we are doing it within a 3 month time frame?

At current rate we will all need a vaccination every 3 months as a precaution. Can you see an entire population doing that or at the very least questioning it?

Because I will question that. Taking it too far when all data provided suggests it's not needed. Covid cases lowest in the elderly and hospital cases are filtering down to unvaccinated only. So a 3 month jab is clearly not needed when the fear is that the jab won't potentially work.

Like I said earlier, the more you over vaccinate, the more the crazy people seem to have a point.
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The 4th shot is for those severely immune compromised eg those who are taking medications to deliberately suppress their immune system.
www.gov.uk

JCVI advice on the UK vaccine response to the Omicron variant

www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
Severely immunosuppressed individuals who have completed their primary course (3 doses) should be offered a booster dose with a minimum of 3 months between the third primary and booster dose. Those who have not yet received their third dose may be given the third dose now to avoid further delay. A further booster dose can be given in 3 months, in line with the clinical advice on optimal timing.

How about we wait for more data, which we’ll hopefully have within a week or so, before making any dire predictions on what will happen in the future?
 
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