Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Who said "would totally remove covid"?

What NSW shows (just like South Korea shows, Taiwan shows and several other examples show) is that it is possible to keep case rates, hospitalizations and deaths low by using all the tools available to public health experts.

Large events still aren't allowed in South Korea. They've only just got rid of a curfew and they're moving towards a living with covid model as they have admitted it can't be eliminated.
 
Large events still aren't allowed in South Korea. They've only just got rid of a curfew and they're moving towards a living with covid model as they have admitted it can't be eliminated.

... and look how well its working!

 
Im double jabbed but I'll speak out when I see tyranny mate and excluding people from society or demanding they take whatever drug the government demands is something out of Nazi Germany and people need to unite against it otherwise where does it stop/lead to?

If they really want to boost vaccine uptake then make it worth peoples time - give them a free pint and a burger, extra days annual leave etc. Plenty of silly ways of encouraging uptake without acting like a tolitartian regime.

And if people dont want it then respect their decision and let them take the medication once its in circulation and/or mandatory testing before entry into places.
I agree with all of what you're saying 100%, it's just the nazi Germany comparison that makes those of us against this stuff look like a bunch of extremists.

But if they start rounding up the unvaccinated....

I'd love to say this is out the question but I thought mandatory vaccination in the western world wouldn't happen so I'm not getting too confident about that!
 
I agree with all of what you're saying 100%, it's just the nazi Germany comparison that makes those of us against this stuff look like a bunch of extremists.

But if they start rounding up the unvaccinated....

I'd love to say this is out the question but I thought mandatory vaccination in the western world wouldn't happen so I'm not getting too confident about that!
The analogy doesn't really work because the unvaccinated are essentially exterminating themselves rather than someone else doing it to them.
 
6th biggest economy vs 12th biggest

142 million passenger arrivals pa vs 92 million passenger arrivals pa

we are not that different to them
But we are.

Every country is different, from its living style , culture , pastimes etc.

You can't compare different countries based on abertary figures because there is so much more than just numbers.

The UK is nothing like South Korea, it's nothing like Australia , nothing like India etc. You can't directly compare countries and have that comparison valid.
 
A couple of weeks back I had Covid. Felt a bit rough for two or three days and did my time in isolation. I’m double jabbed and it was just coming up to me getting the booster. Now throughout this pandemic myself, family and friends all managed to avoid catching it and we all are double jabbed. What is weird though is that most of my friends all caught Covid at about the same time, just before they were due to get a booster. We found out afterwards that some pain in the ‘arris anti-vaxxer had visited the pub and then we all went down with Covid. It just made me think though that a new variant may have been in play and that the problems that Europe are now seeing are just a magnification of the perhaps isolated explosion of Covid that we endured In our little village. Everyone is fine btw, two or three days feeling iffy then full recovery bar the odd cough (thank god for the vaccine)…..
 
This is about my view as well.

Although hypothetically, I can conceive of a virus that was so transmissible and so deadly, that mandatory vaccination was justifiable, but Covid isn’t it.
Several places deemed Smallpox in that category.

The 1853 Act[edit]​

By the Act it was required:[2]

  • That every child, whose health permits, shall be vaccinated within three, or in case of orphanage within four months of birth, by the public vaccinator of the district, or by some other medical practitioner.
  • That notice of this requirement, and information as to the local arrangements for public vaccination, shall, whenever a birth is registered, be given by the registrar of births to the parents or guardians of the child.
  • That every medical practitioner who, whether in public or private practice, successfully vaccinates a child shall send to the local registrar of births a certificate that he has done so ; and the registrar shall keep a minute of all the notices given, and an account of all the certificates thus received.
  • That parents or guardians who, without sufficient reason, after having duly received the registrar's notice of the requirement of Vaccination, either omit to have a child duly vaccinated, or, this being done, omit to have it inspected as to the results of Vaccination, shall be liable to a penalty of £1; and all penalties shall be recoverable under Jervis's Act, and shall be paid toward the local poor-rate.
 
A couple of weeks back I had Covid. Felt a bit rough for two or three days and did my time in isolation. I’m double jabbed and it was just coming up to me getting the booster. Now throughout this pandemic myself, family and friends all managed to avoid catching it and we all are double jabbed. What is weird though is that most of my friends all caught Covid at about the same time, just before they were due to get a booster. We found out afterwards that some pain in the ‘arris anti-vaxxer had visited the pub and then we all went down with Covid. It just made me think though that a new variant may have been in play and that the problems that Europe are now seeing are just a magnification of the perhaps isolated explosion of Covid that we endured In our little village. Everyone is fine btw, two or three days feeling iffy then full recovery bar the odd cough (thank god for the vaccine)…..
Glad you are feeling better Pete and managed to avoid worse,

There is a variant that is becoming dominant in the Uk but it doesn’t seem more severe or more vaccine resistant thankfully

 
Several places deemed Smallpox in that category.

The 1853 Act[edit]​

By the Act it was required:[2]

  • That every child, whose health permits, shall be vaccinated within three, or in case of orphanage within four months of birth, by the public vaccinator of the district, or by some other medical practitioner.
  • That notice of this requirement, and information as to the local arrangements for public vaccination, shall, whenever a birth is registered, be given by the registrar of births to the parents or guardians of the child.
  • That every medical practitioner who, whether in public or private practice, successfully vaccinates a child shall send to the local registrar of births a certificate that he has done so ; and the registrar shall keep a minute of all the notices given, and an account of all the certificates thus received.
  • That parents or guardians who, without sufficient reason, after having duly received the registrar's notice of the requirement of Vaccination, either omit to have a child duly vaccinated, or, this being done, omit to have it inspected as to the results of Vaccination, shall be liable to a penalty of £1; and all penalties shall be recoverable under Jervis's Act, and shall be paid toward the local poor-rate.

Indeed, as a child we all got polio, measles, tetanus and every other inoculation going. There was no choice in the matter, it was for the common good……
 
I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not", nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.
 
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