A bit of Yank 'humor' at our cousin's from across the pond expense
Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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Worcestershire sauce reference
roydo
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Doesnt help much if I am honest.
The joke is already laboured here. Most people pronounce Worcestershire sauce as ‘Wooster sauce’ so it’s a reference to that.
apologies everyone.
Your coats waiting for you Jimmy.
I didn’t start the joke. I shouldn’t have jumped in I guess.
Ghost Rider
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To turn it around.It is an argument that has a long history here in the US because as I've mentioned previously vaccine mandates have a long history here.
Variolation was far more risky than todays vaccines but Washington balanced the risks versus the rewards of vaccinating his troops.
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And in a famous Supreme court case the decision was
r]eal liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own [liberty], whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others.
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It boils down to what you mean by "people should have a choice" and whether those choices should be consequence free if they adversely impact others, especially under their care. Healthcare workers clearly saved lives when they worked without a vaccine and I'm deeply grateful that they did and risked their own health to do so. Should that gratitude extend to exercising their vaccine choice that will now increase the risk of death to their patients?
Different states are going different routes, some like mine are mandating vaccines for healthcare workers. others like Florida and Texas are adamantly opposed (despite often having vaccine mandates for flu). Personally I'd happy with the decision my state has made.
Those healthcare workers will still be saving lives , vaccine or not.
So the other side to looking at it is you then sack all those who refuse the vaccine. Then you have less staff to treat other people for the million and one other reasons to be in hospital.
So for the sake of concentrating on covid, those staff who you sack to protect people from not getting covid could end up killing others through short staff. Especially if a number of them are from the same location at once. The knock on effects go down the chain.
So there is another side to it than just focusing on the possibility of covid, especially when considering the other health issues that exist in the world. Both sides are as valid as each other , you would expect health care professionals to be protected but then how do you balance the risk of potentially risking the lives of more people?
Agree that staffing levels are a concern, have seen some health professionals who agree with vaccine mandates in principal but disagree with it practice because of that issue (or at least want the mandates to be delayed until a less busy time of year).
So far in the US where mandates has been implemented in general they have not resulted in many resignations from what I’ve seen although there was one maternity ward in New York that there were
NY hospital pausing delivering babies after Covid-19 resignations
A hospital in upstate New York is "pausing" deliveries of babies because of the number of maternity unit employee resignations over the state's Covid-19 vaccination requirements, health officials say.
Ah well - I amuse myself and that's all that matters lol
Luckily - for me - there's no moderation in CA.
Ghost Rider
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Yeah there is a good chance that the impact won't be seen as my post probably exagerated In the bigger picture.Agree that staffing levels are a concern, have seen some health professionals who agree with vaccine mandates in principal but disagree with it practice because of that issue (or at least want the mandates to be delayed until a less busy time of year).
So far in the US where mandates has been implemented in general they have not resulted in many resignations from what I’ve seen although there was one maternity ward in New York that there were
NY hospital pausing delivering babies after Covid-19 resignations
A hospital in upstate New York is "pausing" deliveries of babies because of the number of maternity unit employee resignations over the state's Covid-19 vaccination requirements, health officials say.www.cnn.com
More so in America than the UK but if 1% refuse the vaccine then it would take a good number working in a small area to have a huge impact, otherwise the sheer number of hospitals across a large span would only see a few.
That is factoring in that health care staff generally have been vaccinated so it's very much a minority!
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Serious question that’s preventing me from booking the booster COVID jab is as follows,
I’ve had the first jab (Pfizer) mid feb and at the time Pfizer said you need 2nd jab within 3 weeks but Govt said it’s ok to delay no problem at all so more people could get the first jab.
OK then I actually waited 3 months and got the 2nd mid May.
Now I am being told to book the booster. So that would mean 3 COVID vaccinations in 9 months !
My question is A) Does that mean I will need a jab about every 3 months for the future as apparently they must only be effective for a matter of months and B) When will I need the next jab after this booster ??
Bcs if A) is the case I’m not getting any more.
I’ve had the first jab (Pfizer) mid feb and at the time Pfizer said you need 2nd jab within 3 weeks but Govt said it’s ok to delay no problem at all so more people could get the first jab.
OK then I actually waited 3 months and got the 2nd mid May.
Now I am being told to book the booster. So that would mean 3 COVID vaccinations in 9 months !
My question is A) Does that mean I will need a jab about every 3 months for the future as apparently they must only be effective for a matter of months and B) When will I need the next jab after this booster ??
Bcs if A) is the case I’m not getting any more.
It isn’t unusual for some vaccines to require three doses. The hpv vaccine for instance is recommended as a two dose regimen if you receive the first shot before your 15th birthday but a three shot if over 15 or are immune compromised as as the immune system isn’t as quick to learn.
HPV Vaccination Recommendations | CDC
The HPV vaccine is recommended for girls and boys ages 11 and 12. Any HPV vaccine can be given to girls. Either the quadrivalent or 9-valent HPV vaccine can be given to boys. HPV vaccination is cancer prevention.
Nobody knows whether there will need go be a further dose or on what schedule, this is a new virus so we have limited data and Covid can stil mutate so definitive answers woild be premature although there are reasons to be optimistic.
However what is known is that current boosters provide a significant benefit compared to the two doses, especially in those most vulnerable to severe outcomes.
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