Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueToff]

“Genuine concern”?

All I see is the usual suspects casting about the usual uninformed speculation in a cowardly way to try and suggest something.

Aguero has had COVID, and has been vaccinated. He is also 33, has played high level professional football for the better part of 15 years and his dream move has turned into a nightmare. There are loads of reasons why he might have had that episode.

Yes there is genuine concern, as in concern from the club. I haven’t even been online on here until today for a few days so I don’t know about the weirdos - but through work yes I know that there has been genuine concern initially that the vaccine may have played a factor in his a drop off in his fitness, which was already low as he came back from injury, thus causing a spike in his heart rate. That was one of the lines reported by reliable people in Spain

Everton were concerned COVID had caused inflammation around Godfrey’s heart, too.

 

[BlueToff]

Yeah, same here.

It’s crap mate, isn’t it

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[BlueStevie35]

No hospital figures reported for today due to an outage in the NHS reporting system yesterday so tomorrow may see a higher figure reported

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 40 deaths were announced today, down 34 on yesterday and up 2 on last Monday. The 7 day rolling average rises slightly to 157.29

For the 60 day cut off, 41 deaths were announced today, down 39 on yesterday’s late revealed total of 80 and down 1 on last Monday. The 7 day rolling average falls slightly to 181.86

 

[BlueToff]

What does he mean there? As in percentage vaccinated?

Just for reference, UK has 70m people, Aus and NZ combined is under 30m people.

They could have had it done by September

 

[LinekersLegs]

What does he mean there? As in percentage vaccinated?

Just for reference, UK has 70m people, Aus and NZ combined is under 30m people.

They could have had it done by September

Yep, % of population vaccinated.

Don’t see that UK having more people (or the US for that matter) means is harder to get to a % vaccinated as long as supply can be secured tbh. As well as more poeple as population also have more of an infrastructure to service them and set up vaccination centres and population density would mean a single site could presumably serve a bigger number.

 

[navidson]

Yep, % of population vaccinated.

Don’t see that UK having more people (or the US for that matter) means is harder to get to a % vaccinated as long as supply can be secured tbh. As well as more poeple as population also have more of an infrastructure to service them and set up vaccination centres and population density would mean a single site could presumably serve a bigger number.

It's a misleading statistic they've used because it's counting total population - and we are not vaccinating children under the age of 12

86.9% of the eligible population have had their first dose of the vaccine

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

No surprise me myself and I is sweeping through...

One in four 35- to 54-year-olds in England not complying with Covid self-isolation

ONS figures suggest proportion of people following rules has slipped since summer

www.theguardian.com

 

[LinekersLegs]

It's a misleading statistic they've used because it's counting total population - and we are not vaccinating children under the age of 12

86.9% of the eligible population have had their first dose of the vaccine

I don’t think NZ is either though and from what I can tell New Zealand has a greater % of their population younger than 14 than UK (19% compared to 17%) so I don’t think that accounts for the difference tbh.

New Zealand - age structure 2023| Statista

This statistic shows the age structure in New Zealand from 2013 to 2023.

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United Kingdom - Population Ages 0-14 (% Of Total) - 2026 Data 2027 Forecast 1960-2024 Historical

Population ages 0-14 (% of total population) in United Kingdom was reported at 17.19 % in 2024, according to the World Bank collection of development indicators, compiled from officially recognized sources. United Kingdom - Population ages 0-14 (% of total) - actual values, historical data...

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New Zealand does seem to have made much better progress in vaccinating a high % of their eligible under 20s however


UK did an excellent rollout for the vulnerable groups in initial rollout but hasn’t been as good for delivering to you ger age groups or doing boosters

 

[navidson]

I don’t think NZ is either though and from what I can tell New Zealand has a greater % of their population younger than 14 than UK (19% compared to 17%) so I don’t think that accounts for the difference tbh.

New Zealand - age structure 2023| Statista

This statistic shows the age structure in New Zealand from 2013 to 2023.

www.statista.com

United Kingdom - Population Ages 0-14 (% Of Total) - 2026 Data 2027 Forecast 1960-2024 Historical

Population ages 0-14 (% of total population) in United Kingdom was reported at 17.19 % in 2024, according to the World Bank collection of development indicators, compiled from officially recognized sources. United Kingdom - Population ages 0-14 (% of total) - actual values, historical data...

tradingeconomics.com

New Zealand does seem to have made much better progress in vaccinating a high % of their under 20s however


UK did an excellent rollout for the vulnerable groups in initial rollout but hasn’t been as good for delivering to you ger age groups or doing boosters

Maybe more people in New Zealand are coming forward to have the vaccine because they've basically been imprisoned within their own homes by the government and they've been promised a return to normality with the jab?

 

[BlueToff]

Yep, % of population vaccinated.

Don’t see that UK having more people (or the US for that matter) means is harder to get to a % vaccinated as long as supply can be secured tbh. As well as more poeple as population also have more of an infrastructure to service them and set up vaccination centres and population density would mean a single site could presumably serve a bigger number.

The uk hit high numbers pretty quickly, then hit the anti vaxxers and, ultimately, not enough of them have changed their tune. I don’t know what more can be done about that. They tried vaccine passports, but got shouted down by people and bottled it. Now what’s next? You can’t force people down.

Aus and NZ could and should have had their roll outs finished in a matter of months. However, they dallied. But then they have realised the importance of vaccination and pushed it. I imagine the lockdowns in aus in recent months have helped in pushing people to be vaccinated - as they’re only opening up based on % of population vaccinated at least in some areas

 

[LinekersLegs]

Would be great if the investments in mRNA vaccines due to Covid meant some other vaccines got off the ground faster.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Maybe more people in New Zealand are coming forward to have the vaccine because they've basically been imprisoned within their own homes by the government and they've been promised a return to normality with the jab?

Agree with the latter bit, still think their and Australia’s catch up have been impressive.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[bebo86]

Waterford Ireland 99.7 percent vaccine uptake in in adults, highest covid rate in Ireland. This is a fact, so do we just say scree it and let covid rip through or what's the next step