tsubaki
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Footballers collapsing / dying from sudden or undetected heart problems was happening before COVID, you know.
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Footballers collapsing / dying from sudden or undetected heart problems was happening before COVID, you know.
Don’t let that get in the way of a perfectly good conspiracy theory .
the idea that football clubs, the epitome of selfishness , would allow their ‘assets’ to be put at risk without causing an enormous outcry seems unlikely .
Ally Pally were really strenuous with the checking of vaccine passes/COVID negative test results at the gig I went to on Friday.
Was at 10,000 capacity too.
I'm full of cold now like, though have done three COVID tests and all negative. Back down in that sweet London air for 2 days ey, completely wiped me out. Don't know how people do it. Can't stand the place.
Was at 10,000 capacity too.
I'm full of cold now like, though have done three COVID tests and all negative. Back down in that sweet London air for 2 days ey, completely wiped me out. Don't know how people do it. Can't stand the place.
Yeah but in this case there's genuine concern that the vaccine might have not been a cause, but might have played a part.
Aguero has had covid twice. And if you have had covid and then get the vaccine, there's plenty of evidence of people feeling a lot worse. That's not to say people shouldn't get the vaccine still, but covid does weird things, especially to your vascular system, and the vaccine might not help that after the fact and actually make things worse for a little while.
I can only go off personal experience but I know full well the second jab knocked my fitness back as much as, if not moreso, than COVID itself did. It's crap and I still can't do what I did before and it's been 3 1/2 months since I had COVID now, and it's been 2 months bang on since I had my second vaccine dose.
Eriksen was nothing to do with a vaccine, it was just one of those incidents.
There is concern with Aguero because supposedly he only received his vaccine very recently and the bloke has had COVID twice in the last year.
tsubaki
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“Genuine concern”?
All I see is the usual suspects casting about the usual uninformed speculation in a cowardly way to try and suggest something.
Aguero has had COVID, and has been vaccinated. He is also 33, has played high level professional football for the better part of 15 years and his dream move has turned into a nightmare. There are loads of reasons why he might have had that episode.
Billy Dean
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I'm obviously not a medical professional but my understanding up to now is that the vaccine can cause mild and temporary myocarditis in younger people, whilst covid can do lasting damage to the cardiovascular system. Not sure if my understanding is fully correct.
Worth pointing out that Aguero has a history of having a heart problem. This article from 2017 mentions him having surgery as a teenager.
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Sergio Aguero hospitalised after fainting during Argentina's defeat to Nigeria
Sergio Aguero has undergone medical checks after reports he fell ill during Argentinas 4-2 defeat by Nigeria in a friendly in Krasnodar.
tsubaki
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Worth pointing out that Aguero has a history of having a heart problem. This article from 2017 mentions him having surgery as a teenager.
Sergio Aguero hospitalised after fainting during Argentina's defeat to Nigeria
Sergio Aguero has undergone medical checks after reports he fell ill during Argentinas 4-2 defeat by Nigeria in a friendly in Krasnodar.
Who would have thought his medical history might be relevant in this discussion?
Ghost Rider
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Given this talk about the vaccine and footballers etc.
There is far more to the vaccine than people generally are aware of. Even for the greater good there are side effects that just have not been communicated out, or covered up when the misinformation flags raise and remove them on social media. There has been plenty of content about things that just haven't been reported in the news , almost like a cover up. I do believe that a lot of negative press about the vaccine has been buried to not deter people from getting the jab, as any side effects aren't common apart from the ones that most of us experienced.
I say this sitting here with 3 of them in me this year so greater good is very much the emphasis there.
There is far more to the vaccine than people generally are aware of. Even for the greater good there are side effects that just have not been communicated out, or covered up when the misinformation flags raise and remove them on social media. There has been plenty of content about things that just haven't been reported in the news , almost like a cover up. I do believe that a lot of negative press about the vaccine has been buried to not deter people from getting the jab, as any side effects aren't common apart from the ones that most of us experienced.
I say this sitting here with 3 of them in me this year so greater good is very much the emphasis there.
Think a lot of it has been extensively covered in the news as well as wider non MSM outlets.
We knew about the allergic response to Pfizer very early on, the blood clots associated with AZ, the increased rate of heart issues with young men.
As well as that, the yellow card reporting is published on gov.uk every week, with accompanying analysis.
Although I agree to an extent, that the media could have chosen to run an adverse vaccine reaction story every single day, as with 80 odd million vaccines having been given, I’m sure there’s loads out there, but have wisely chosen not to, so as not to discourage uptake.
Ghost Rider
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Absolutely, greater good as i say is the end game here. I know people who have had side effects not reported, one big one is menstrual issues with women. Anything from irregular period to full on bleeding for weeks on end. There was plenty of coverage on tik tok according to the wife but a similar post on facebook would flag as misinformation under their current policy.
The ones you list have to be reported because they are pretty serious. side effects to any vaccine exist, i am sure there is rare effects from the flu jab as well that people don't care about.
Too many side effects listed would put people off getting the jab, but to what extent are some of these normal but simply never delivered to as many people as this vaccination has?
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Yeah, same here.
Again, I think the menstrual cycle stuff has been pretty widely reported, a quick Google news search shows BbC, independent, guardian stories, as well as BMJ articles etc.
The problem with Facebook will likely be people putting unsubstantiated claims on there, although I’m not on Facebook so no idea how their misinformation policy works in practice.
The yellow card reporting is an interesting read as it captures c250k adverse reactions in there (although these are reported unchecked, so not substantiated). But when you dig into it, around 80% of those reactions are sore arm, or fever, chills, which is a completely expected reaction.
there’s also reported reactions on the yellow card system which would have no plausible biological mechanism to be a side effect from the vaccine (e.g. “homosexuality” - I’m not kidding), but it all gets captured there anyway.
Halloween and its scary stories seem to have carried over into this thread today.
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