Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BirkenheadBlue]

Not fair to blame that on folks not getting vaccinated. What have they got to do with your flight? And "too cowardly or too dumb" ??

Get a grip.

Your target shouldn't be fellow citizens, it should be Virgin and/or the government.

Nah, I’ll focus on the root cause ta.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Not fair to blame that on folks not getting vaccinated. What have they got to do with your flight? And "too cowardly or too dumb" ??

Get a grip.

Your target shouldn't be fellow citizens, it should be Virgin and/or the government.

People not getting vaccinated should absolutely be blamed.

Then denied access to services and ostracised from society.

 

[roydo]

Nah, I’ll focus on the root cause ta.

At risk of asking the obvious, why have Virgin pulled their flights, I assume, to Merica?

 

[dholliday]

Nah, I’ll focus on the root cause ta.

You're wrong. It's poisonous for society to turn on each other when it's authorities that are making the rules.

People not getting vaccinated should absolutely be blamed.

Then denied access to services and ostracised from society.

i hope you're wumming.

...otherwise, you've just spouted textbook-fascist thinking.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

You're wrong. It's poisonous for society to turn on each other when it's authorities that are making the rules.



i hope you're wumming.

...otherwise, you've just spouted textbook-fascist thinking.

That's level one triangling.

Up your game.

 

[roydo]

You're wrong. It's poisonous for society to turn on each other when it's authorities that are making the rules.



i hope you're wumming.

...otherwise, you've just spouted textbook-fascist thinking.

Not really. Just want to keep Mrs R safe thanks. Uninformed idiots who refuse to help society are self serving fantasists.

 

[dholliday]

America…FFS

Farm Supply Stores Are Running Short on a Horse Dewormer/Pseudoscience COVID Cure

People are using the horse medicine as a supposed COVID cure-all.

slate.com

cute humour on the tweet, but here's a serious spotify discussion on ivermectin if anyone's curious:

 

[dholliday]

Not really. Just want to keep Mrs R safe thanks. Uninformed idiots who refuse to help society are self serving fantasists.

Who is refusing to help society and in what way are they a danger to Mrs R?

 

[roydo]

Who is refusing to help society and in what way are they a danger to Mrs R?

Folk who refuse a vax based on anything other than medical grounds. If they get a dose of covid, they can spread it easier than a vaxed person. So that endangers me, which by extension, seriously endangers Mrs R.

 

[dholliday]

That's level one triangling.

Up your game.

it's actually top-level, for fascism is defined as the forcible suppression of opposition.

You said: "blame the unvaccinated and deny them access to services and have them ostracised from society."

That is literally forcible suppression of opposition. Ergo, you spout fascism: an ideology which pre-pandemic was totally unacceptable in Western society. World wars were fought to defeat it.

I explicitly refute your central point, using the entirety of Western Dogma 1945-2019 as basis.

Top-level:

The only counter is to argue that Covid-19 is sufficient for us all to do a 180° on that.

Is it?

 

[roydo]

What a load of utter bolloxs.

 

[dholliday]

Folk who refuse a vax based on anything other than medical grounds. If they get a dose of covid, they can spread it easier than a vaxed person. So that endangers me, which by extension, seriously endangers Mrs R.

Source?

I already linked the latest Oxford studies which tell us that the vaxxed and unvaxxed spread similar loads (Delta of course being the hugely-dominant strain):

Delta infections after two vaccine doses had similar peak levels of virus to those in unvaccinated people.

Vaccines still effective against Delta variant of concern, says Oxford-led study of the COVID-19 Infections Survey

Obtaining two vaccine doses remains the most effective way to ensure protection against the COVID-19 Delta variant of concern dominant in the UK today, according to a study from the University of Oxford.

www.ox.ac.uk

 

[ste d' indica]

What a load of utter bolloxs.

RESPECT THE TRIANGLE!!!

 

[roydo]

Source?

‘But the fact that they can have high levels of virus suggests that people who aren’t yet vaccinated may not be as protected from the Delta variant as we hoped. This means it is essential for as many people as possible to get vaccinated – both in the UK and worldwide.’

From your own post.

 

[dholliday]

‘But the fact that they can have high levels of virus suggests that people who aren’t yet vaccinated may not be as protected from the Delta variant as we hoped. This means it is essential for as many people as possible to get vaccinated – both in the UK and worldwide.’

That doesn't support your argument that they can spread it more. That just supports the argument that the vaccinated can spread the virus as much as the unvaccinated, so it is important for the unvaxxed to get the jab to protect themselves (as they're not protected by the vaxxed).

There is so far no peer-reviewed science which supports the notion that the unvaxxed present more of a danger to people than the vaxxed do.