Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[LinekersLegs]

 

[roydo]

UK starting booster roll out for over 50s in a few weeks.

That said, its proper odd these last few weeks. We pretty much reopened what, 8 weeks ago, ish? Euros, Wimbledon, F1, no real issues. Cases falling from a not too bad peek, and admissions/deaths never really got any traction.

Winter will be the kicker, one way or another mind.

 

[Tramps_mate]

UK starting booster roll out for over 50s in a few weeks.

That said, its proper odd these last few weeks. We pretty much reopened what, 8 weeks ago, ish? Euros, Wimbledon, F1, no real issues. Cases falling from a not too bad peek, and admissions/deaths never really got any traction.

Winter will be the kicker, one way or another mind.

Also if the above post has anything to go by the vaccines are losing strength over time.. Yearly booster jabs for ever!!

 

[roydo]

Also if the above post has anything to go by the vaccines are losing strength over time.. Yearly booster jabs for ever!!

Been doing them for about 40 years.

Said it months ago, the NHS will set up a perm Vax Squad to limit the effect on the day to day GP stuff in due course.

 

[LinekersLegs]

UK starting booster roll out for over 50s in a few weeks.

That said, its proper odd these last few weeks. We pretty much reopened what, 8 weeks ago, ish? Euros, Wimbledon, F1, no real issues. Cases falling from a not too bad peek, and admissions/deaths never really got any traction.

Winter will be the kicker, one way or another mind.

Deaths thankfully not but hospitals did seem to get overly stretched, especially in some regions.

Not UK January bad or Florida currently bad but still pretty bad especially given they were already under pressure with backlog of cases, a higher than usual load of non Covid cases and exhausted staff.

With luck flu cases continue to stay low, vaccinations continue to cover/boost more people and some of the case backlog has been worked through.

Going to be interesting to see what uptake is like in 16-17 year olds in the UK and the over 12s when they are authorized - schools seem to drive quite a bit of overall community transmission.

 

[roydo]

Going to be interesting to see what uptake is like in 16-17 year olds in the UK and the over 12s when they are authorized

Pretty sure they have passed muster, and research today said vax hesitancy in the age group had collapsed to 4/5 %.

Trouble is, many of them are away from home! To my pea sized brain, a single nurse could vax an entire school while they are in class, which could easily mop up the lot of them.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Pretty sure they have passed muster, and research today said vax hesitancy in the age group had collapsed to 4/5 %.

Trouble is, many of them are away from home! To my pea sized brain, a single nurse could vax an entire school while they are in class, which could easily mop up the lot of them.

Brings back memories of all the teenage girls at school getting the rubella jab and some boys making it a policy to hit all of us on the arm as we walked out the nurses room

 

[LinekersLegs]

If this finding is supported by other studies wonder id it will be the dosing that is determined to be the reason

 

[summerisle]

Wirral looking better.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Have a Q;

So last year today, only 18 were dead in the UK, with around two thirds of the population fully vaccinated now unlike last Aug 10, how come 146 died of the virus today?

OK, most people who died are jabless, but everyone was jabless last year today, and it is summer, August, does this mean we are against much more deadly variant of covid-19?

 

[TN Toffee]

Have a Q;

So last year today, only 18 were dead in the UK, with around two thirds of the population fully vaccinated now unlike last Aug 10, how come 146 died of the virus today?

OK, most people who died are jabless, but everyone was jabless last year today, and it is summer, August, does this mean we are against much more deadly variant of covid-19?

I know the country wasn’t in a winter-like lockdown, but weren’t there SIGNIFICANT restrictions on what businesses were allowed to operate to the point that basically no one could do anything indoors? Those are all gone now and have been for weeks/months.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

I know the country wasn’t in a winter-like lockdown, but weren’t there SIGNIFICANT restrictions on what businesses were allowed to operate to the point that basically no one could do anything indoors? Those are all gone now and have been for weeks/months.

But it was still pretty much open.

And note, no vax in sight back then. How come only 18 were dead? So this means, if there was still no vax whatsoever today, 10 Aug 2021, there could be 400 something deaths maybe, compared to last year's 18? I thought pandemics were not working like this....Even with no vax situations, the virus slowly fades out. Not this one?

Just trying to figure it out.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Have a Q;

So last year today, only 18 were dead in the UK, with around two thirds of the population fully vaccinated now unlike last Aug 10, how come 146 died of the virus today?

OK, most people who died are jabless, but everyone was jabless last year today, and it is summer, August, does this mean we are against much more deadly variant of covid-19?

From what I’ve read is so far they don’t know


There was some data from Scotland that suggested it might be more lethal in one of the PHE reports, will try and dig it up but haven’t seen much else other than anecdotes about whether more dangerous.

However they do have high confidence that it is much more transmissible than the original strain that was in the UK this time last year and, although it is is a bit counterintuitive, that can end up with worst figures than a more virulent strain.

Coronavirus variants: why being more transmissible rather than more deadly isn’t good news

A virus that is 30% more transmissible is more deadly than a virus that is 30% more deadly. Counter-intuitive but true.

theconversation.com

In fact, even a 30% more transmissible variant can be way worse than a variant that is 30% more deadly. At the heart of this counter-intuitive assertion lies an old foe that has plagued us right from the start of this pandemic: exponential growth. Here’s a simple thought experiment that helps to explain why.

Imagine the old variant spreading under measures that have reduced R to 1. Starting with 10,000 infected people, every generation interval (time becoming infected and infecting someone else) they will infect 10,000 more. Of everyone that gets infected, let’s assume that 1% of them will die. After ten generations, 100,000 new infections will have occurred leading to 1,000 deaths.

With a variant that is 30% more deadly, the same number of infections will occur, but they will lead to 1,300 deaths. Yet with a variant that is 30% more transmissible but not more deadly, because cases will grow exponentially, the eventual death toll over the same period stretches to over 4,200. The longer this goes on for, the bigger the death toll discrepancy between the more transmissible and the more deadly strain becomes.

 

[grandjoeblue]

But it was still pretty much open.

And note, no vax in sight back then. How come only 18 were dead? So this means, if there was still no vax whatsoever today, 10 Aug 2021, there could be 400 something deaths maybe, compared to last year's 18? I thought pandemics were not working like this....Even with no vax situations, the virus slowly fades out. Not this one?

Just trying to figure it out.

Delta variant is much more spreadable and last year there was still significant restrictions. 6 to a table, masks everywhere etc, no events at all.

 

[Sinski]

tbh, that thought did cross my mind, but we'll never know.
But I was just repeating from the 6 O'clock TV News...so in true journalistic fashion I went ahead because it suited my agenda.

And that folks shows how easy it is to write for the modern day media.

...next couple of months - try 5,6 or 7.
But, when it suits them Governments can get 80% of the adult population to all turn out on the same day at the local school to put an 'X' in a box

Thats because we have to. Its compulsory to vote but not to get the vaccine.