Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Was in San Francisco for lunch yesterday and still a lot of masks about even despite there not being any mandate for their use.


I do think you'll see a similar trend here tbh.

Go in a coffee shop in the day in a big city centre, I reckon you see people wearing masks.

Go in a pub in a suburb. Maybe not so much.
 
i've deleted it, got pinged last week. it's only guidance anyway. You dont have to isolate

I'm pretty sure it's law but, if it isn't already, it will be in mid-August.

I'm going to make sure I'm double jabbed by then. Then I don't have any risk (unless I get it).

But as I keep banging on about, all they have to do to help solve people not isolating is actually be realistic about what they expect from people.

10 days - far too much, especially with no release test.

Should be 5 days to a week maximum with release tests. Easy to do and people are more likely to follow it.

There's no science behind the 10 day thing. Initially it was 2 weeks. It's just another arbitrary number.
 
Tbf I think they will 100% still be mandatory in healthcare settings for staff etc and I reckon you'll need to have one on to be allowed entry to most places in hospitals.

Hospitals are a different kettle of fish altogether and people should realise that (though I know some will ignore cause they're w*****).

It'd be sensible probably to have them mandatory on transport, healthcare etc. I just think you'd get people ignoring that too as well though so would it even be a win in that sense?

I don't know. I think they're really a very small part of all this in the grand scheme. They're just the most visible thing.

Like I said though, I'd keep them.
I think they are really good at keeping down some of the risk of some of the shorter exposures people face like a teip to the supermarket, ride on the bus or a doctor visit
 
I think they are really good at keeping down some of the risk of some of the shorter exposures people face


Oh sorry I meant as in I don't see why they're such a big deal for people who bang on about them either way (especially those who think they're some form of control).

They just aren't a big deal to me now. It's second nature. Then again I don't need to wear one eight hours a day.
 
Oh sorry I meant as in I don't see why they're such a big deal for people who bang on about them either way (especially those who think they're some form of control).

They just aren't a big deal to me now. It's second nature. Then again I don't need to wear one eight hours a day.

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Worth noting that in the US the Delta strain has only in the last week became the dominant one. So in terms of progress through the populace the US is well behind the UK in that regard.

So the rise will be roughly half as dramatic over here when the mandate ends.
Don’t think it that simple to to quantify what the difference will be - spread of delta has had some quite large regional differences, this was almost two weeks ago for instance

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and also mask use changes once any mandate was dropped will also have varied quite a lot.

Add in weather factors and difference vaccination rates/age profiles and the other restrictions being lifted think it hard to make comparisons.

I have no feel for how many people in the UK will change their behaviour on Monday - I was pleasantly surprised locally how many still continued mask use in supermarkets.
 

The RCOG told the BBC its data suggests 58% of pregnant women have declined a Covid vaccine.

It acknowledged "mixed messages" about the safety of the vaccine at the start of the programme had caused confusion - but said it was disappointed there had not been more direct campaigns targeted at pregnant women by the government and NHS England, since vaccination was approved for the group in April. The RCOG says pregnant women were the only clinically vulnerable group not prioritised for vaccination. The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) now advises that pregnant women should all be offered the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccines where available, at the same time as the rest of the population. Research from the US, involving more than 90,000 pregnant people found no risk, and experts say there is no reason to think there is any increased risk of miscarriage - as the vaccine does not appear to cross from the mother to child via the placenta.

Both colleges are urging those who are pregnant or considering pregnancy who have not yet been vaccinated to consider getting a jab as soon as possible and book their second doses as soon as they are eligible.
Unvaccinated or partially vaccinated pregnant women should take steps to avoid infection by continuing to practice social distancing, particularly in their third trimester, they say.
 
I'm pretty sure it's law but, if it isn't already, it will be in mid-August.

I'm going to make sure I'm double jabbed by then. Then I don't have any risk (unless I get it).

But as I keep banging on about, all they have to do to help solve people not isolating is actually be realistic about what they expect from people.

10 days - far too much, especially with no release test.

Should be 5 days to a week maximum with release tests. Easy to do and people are more likely to follow it.

There's no science behind the 10 day thing. Initially it was 2 weeks. It's just another arbitrary number.
We've had a few cases where somebody has done14 days hotel quarentine in say Sydney, passed all the tests during those 14 days, been set free and come down with it 2 days later.
I think 14 days was picked here as a nice round number that people would just about put up with.
Maybe it should be 3 weeks
Maybe they were ok and caught it in the hotel lockdown.
Too many variables
 
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