Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[RAFUH]

 

[TaffyToffee85]

It’s simply finding those who are not vaccinated, the Kentish version wasn’t as good at doing that. This is what I thought all along and it’s being proven.

35 days is enough to get a decent percentage double-jabbed, as long as the supply is ramped up. The rate it’s going at the moment, we will have to wait about 60 odd days.

 

[Lapeno77]

 

[AdamEFC]

FFS just tested positive. I expected it really as I can’t taste or smell anything which is such an odd sensation. Just before I was about to get my Vaccine.

Does anyone know how long after covid you have to wait until you can get the vaccine?

 

[TaffyToffee85]

Good to see there will be some rules relaxed then.

 

[TaffyToffee85]

FFS just tested positive. I expected it really as I can’t taste or smell anything which is such an odd sensation. Just before I was about to get my Vaccine.

Does anyone know how long after covid you have to wait until you can get the vaccine?

About six weeks. Hope you’re alright and the symptoms won’t get worse.

 

[tsubaki]

See Spanish Flu etc.

There would be an extinction event every 100 years if you were right.

17-100 million dead from that - is that what you want to learn to live with?

 

[Paris]

Right - but without having better defences against this virus (and other viruses) we'll never be able to do that. That is the point here - if you don't want another lockdown, we have to have something to prevent us ever getting to the point where it is that out of control. We still do not have that.

Yes we do - we have vaccines that work and are very evidently doing the job. We'll always have flu and other variations of it. Your solution is to lock down all the time. Which is impossible and plainly stupid.

And make everyone else want to jump off a bridge? A great solution in the long term. I'm not a particularly depressed person but I'd rather be dead than lockdown every winter.

There is no real need or obligation on the general public to prevent all flu deaths. Sensible measures yes but lockdown should never happen again.

Some people actually enjoy staying in their pyjamas all day. The people who want to lock down all the time and are desperate for us all to do the same are those people.

I'm shocked that the Tory sports event of the year gets maximum capacity.

 

[tsubaki]

I think this thinking is a little archaic though and certainly wouldn't be a long-term solution. An effective solution would have to rely heavily on technology - it would be absurd not to. So we could in theory produce a short-term solution, but it would be nonsensical for individual counties to start formulating disparate solutions to this issue without some kind of collaboration.

As for it being in our capability - you may well be right, but begs the question, why has no western nation been able to/wanted to do it? Is it cost? Is it a lack of foresight? Is it a lack of deliverability? Maybe it's a combination of them all.

I don't think it is archaic - its how we deliver large swathes of services already, and its much more likely to deliver positive outcomes than just relying on technology (not least because of all the other interventions that can come out of just going around to someones' house).

As for why no western nation has wanted to do it - I think its because of the general failure of western states to prepare themselves effectively for anything ahead of time.

 

[tsubaki]

Yes we do - we have vaccines that work and are very evidently doing the job. We'll always have flu and other variations of it. Your solution is to lock down all the time. Which is impossible and plainly stupid.

Well it isn't though, is it?

 

[LinekersLegs]

Interesting thread on the assumptions the models are using for those into that sort of thing

 

[Goat]

Think its the correct decision myself.

Would be beyond stupid to "go back to full normal" when the virus is spiking yet again.

 

[LinekersLegs]

FFS just tested positive. I expected it really as I can’t taste or smell anything which is such an odd sensation. Just before I was about to get my Vaccine.

Does anyone know how long after covid you have to wait until you can get the vaccine?

Wishing you a swift recovery x

 

[Mrk]

I don't think it is archaic - its how we deliver large swathes of services already, and its much more likely to deliver positive outcomes than just relying on technology (not least because of all the other interventions that can come out of just going around to someones' house).

As for why no western nation has wanted to do it - I think its because of the general failure of western states to prepare themselves effectively for anything ahead of time.

Just sounds a bit like applying 20th century solutions to a 21st century problem. We're not great at delivering services, so if anything the fact that's how we currently do things would encourage me even more to look for a better solution.

A homogenised system that allows people to travel throughout the EU and USA from the UK without encountering disparate systems that shares exposure and positivity status, as well as allowing countries to share information easily would be hugely beneficial. Once we have that, if the UK or any other nation wants to compliment that system with a large team of professionals who can also intervene - great, go for it.

 

[summerisle]

Good to see there will be some rules relaxed then.

I'm sure it's purely coincidental it's London.