TheSecondComing
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Spring 2022
Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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dholliday
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some reckoned this pandemic would have a similar run that the Spanish Flu had, then would peter out (regardless of what we do).
two years pandemic that was...you might be right.
TheSecondComing
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dholliday
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the virus does what it wants.
My dad got pinged last night at 9pm from Test and Trace.
Logged in to complete necessary details and the contact with person was from 4th June. He flew up from London to Manchester that day and got train back to Lytham.
In that time he's seen myself, brother, my auntie in her care home and been out n about.
How on earth will the system work if it takes 8 days to tell someone .
He's only got to isolate today n his ten days are over.
What a farce.
Logged in to complete necessary details and the contact with person was from 4th June. He flew up from London to Manchester that day and got train back to Lytham.
In that time he's seen myself, brother, my auntie in her care home and been out n about.
How on earth will the system work if it takes 8 days to tell someone .
He's only got to isolate today n his ten days are over.
What a farce.
grandjoeblue
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Apparently its relatively common to take 5 or 6 days. 8 is madness though, its barely even worth having the process at that point.
Blueclouds
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This cant be true
True.
Some of the rent a scientists, are predicting 100 000 cases a day by mid July, if we unlock on Monday and that the current restrictions could / may have to remain in place until Spring 2022 to keep the lid on it.
There’ll be more variants along in the meantime and around and around we go.
Personally, I’ve had enough of all this now.
Deckard2049
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Interesting graph.
dholliday
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not a like-for-like comparison:
- Sweden's country is more spread out, UK more packed (people-per-square-mile).
- Sweden's culture is generally more mature in terms of personal responsibility. UK is known to a bit control-freakery with nanny-state tendencies. So the people expect a different governmental response.
- UK's populace is much more diverse, so more chance of variants spreading and the like.
- Sweden's folk are, on average, healthier: per BMI, quality-of-life, medical care and life expectancy. Covid-19 targets the weak.
- Sweden have far higher death-rates than their scandinavian neighbours, this is not yet understood but one theory is because their rules have been relatively lax.
It’s not pointless as it can take up to 14 days for symptoms to appear. If you tell people to isolate for days 9 and 10 then you will still stop some spread.
Deckard2049
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And yet I’m still constantly hearing about how well the likes of New Zealand and Australian have done- is that a fair comparison to the UK?
My posting of the graph is more about how everything we have done, doesn’t really seem to have done anything. Of course, the situation probably would be even worse had we just done nothing, but still, we’ve messed up massively so many times and even now after months of what has been labelled one of the best vaccine rollouts in the world we’re in a worse position than many other countries in regards to how open we are as a society.
Tbh I’m pretty much just resigned to the fact now that until we get to 90% of people vaccinated this is how it’s going to be. I’d be interested to know after tomorrow’s announcement how many people actually think that we will be unlocking sometime in July.
NilSatisOptimum
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God will this ever end, I cannot tolerate them anymore, please Boris do something useful and let them fly abroad, so they can have "fun on the beaches".
Anyway,
Anyway,
dholliday
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no, not a fair comparison, for similar reasons to Sweden.
UK can be more fairly compared to USA, Germany and France.
As i've said a few times: the virus does what it wants...it may turn out to show that our interventions mattered little, in terms of influencing the flow of the pandemic.
At the beginning of the pandemic many of us cautioned that we should not have the cure be worse than the virus.
Long-term lockdowns, ever-changing rules and a masked-up society is depressing...plus billions of healthy not-at-risk people being injected with mRNA-tech with little knowledge of long-term consequences - and comparing that with the Covid-19 death toll (taking into account the vast majority of deaths are old & unhealthy souls) then there is a fair argument that the cure has been worse than the virus itself.
I don't think you can be too harsh against UK specifically...the whole world responded in unison to the pandemic. German citizens are also beginning to ignore the media/government...people just wanna get back to life.
No chance of 90% vaccinated. Kids under 18 shouldn't have it at all, unless they're specifically at-risk. And i bet at least a quarter of all adults are playing a wait-n-see game with the vaccine (i.e. not taking it this year).
Including kids, you're looking at about 50% vaccinated populace. Just the over-18's around 70%...the jury's out if that'll be enough for 'herd immunity'.
Only my opinion, but we won`t be unlocking anytime in July, as things won`t be any different, despite more people having the jab.
There`ll still be large swathes of the population who haven`t / won`t be vaccinated and the new media obsession with infections over deaths / hospitalisations will continue to try and terrify the population.
At best, things will stay as they are now and the public will become more and disinterested and blatant with their disregard for the restrictions.
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