Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Due to the imposition of it in terms of measures.

She supports official measures for it "forever". That's a hard no as far as I'm concerned.
She's more right than wrong - preventable illness in the workplace is a big problem, and facemasks for healthy people were not something we really understood here in the West.
Getting colds and agues at work absolutely sucks (like that even needs stating) and is a symptom of sick work cultures - people too afraid / unable to take days off (plus some absolute cretins who think it's OK to come in to work with a heavy cold when they could easily stay home).
Her comments are sensible in that context - it's a bigger question than just government covid regs.
 
Indeed we all get things wrong it's about learning from mistakes and only 2 days later this post was an outlayer, so I'm half better at prevention than entire Government, not bad for someone who is neither politician or expert in virology, like to think it's my lefty woke principles that allows me to adapt, with good dose of personal stoicism.

As for the 10% I stand by that vaccines we have are not 100% effective.

Anyway, enough about me one will develop an internet ego none of us want to be that, but I have to ask, are you one of the many Grant Shapps internet personalities?

I'm sorry but lol at this.
 
I'm sorry but lol at this.
Made me laugh too, said as if he's the only person in the world aware of this fact, or that it in any way excuses the blatant lie that "10% of those who have been fully vaccinated will become seriously ill with coronavirus". Comical.
 
She's more right than wrong - preventable illness in the workplace is a big problem, and facemasks for healthy people were not something we really understood here in the West.
Getting colds and agues at work absolutely sucks (like that even needs stating) and is a symptom of sick work cultures - people too afraid / unable to take days off (plus some absolute cretins who think it's OK to come in to work with a heavy cold when they could easily stay home).
Her comments are sensible in that context - it's a bigger question than just government covid regs.

The price of the freedoms we have.

Again, if people choose, of their own free will, to wear masks, all power to them.

The government, however, has no right whatsoever to mandate it.
 
I think quite a few people will continue wearing masks indefinitely...

It will certainly be strange going shopping and not wearing one.

And everyone should very much be entitled to wear masks indefinitely if that's what they want. It has to be about personal responsibility and personal choice moving forward. That's what I've wanted for a couple of months now.

The government cannot legislate for masks to be compulsory for an indefinite period. There has to be some sort of cut off point we are working towards over the next months. And then at that point everyone has their own choice to make.
 
The price of the freedoms we have.

Again, if people choose, of their own free will, to wear masks, all power to them.

The government, however, has no right whatsoever to mandate it.

Of course it does - it does already, for loads of preventative measures brought in for disease prevention specifically and health and safety generally.
 
Of course it does - it does already, for loads of preventative measures brought in for disease prevention specifically and health and safety generally.

In the event of a public health emergency, yes.

In every day life? No, the government has no right to mandate clothing on the populace. We live in a democracy, not a dictatorship.
 
Those are very simple measures though, that would work. Making sure communal tables are kept clean is not communism.

Better hygiene through hand washing etc is something that everyone has learned from this and I'd hope that we'll see the benefits of that long term. But saying masks should be mandatory indefinitely is a lot different than encouraging people to continue to maintain good levels of hand hygiene.
 
Better hygiene through hand washing etc is something that everyone has learned from this and I'd hope that we'll see the benefits of that long term. But saying masks should be mandatory indefinitely is a lot different than encouraging people to continue to maintain good levels of hand hygiene.

Why? Millions of people have worn masks on buses, trains, tubes and so on without the world coming to an end and we’ve seen how they work at controlling disease.

Yet apparently telling people to do it, even though we know the benefits and know the impact of pandemic disease, is daft?
 
Why? Millions of people have worn masks on buses, trains, tubes and so on without the world coming to an end and we’ve seen how they work at controlling disease.

Yet apparently telling people to do it, even though we know the benefits and know the impact of pandemic disease, is daft?

Every time you drink a pint of lager you're hurting your health, putting pressure on the NHS. Everytime you eat a slice of bread, you're increasing the risk of diabetes, putting pressure on the NHS. And so on.

You don't force people to only drink water, or only eat vegetables. Because we don't live in that sort of society, and thank everything for that.

We live in a society where we have rule by consent. The understanding is that people are free to have personal responsibility to an extent. That 'extent' means while we don't allow people to kill eachother, we do allow them to choose to eat a Mars bar or wear clothing of their own choice.

What you are advocating is justified totalitarianism, where the government uses the argument of 'the greater good' to enforce rules. That slope is extremely slippy.
 
Why? Millions of people have worn masks on buses, trains, tubes and so on without the world coming to an end and we’ve seen how they work at controlling disease.

Yet apparently telling people to do it, even though we know the benefits and know the impact of pandemic disease, is daft?
So we ban smoking, alcohol, processed foods and lets throw in gambling as well?
We all know the dangers to your health that those things bring so do we tell people they cannot have them?
 
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