Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Just got my second jab at the racecourse, was there all of 2/3 minutes

All 5G’d up and ready to get back to #normality

Get jabbed, people
Hate to break it to you but you have had the wrong one, it's Bluetooth!

More seriously still got quarantine for 10 days if you come into contact with COVID, hence why I'm now at home in garden, this will still apply after June 21st.
 
Hate to break it to you but you have had the wrong one, it's Bluetooth!

More seriously still got quarantine for 10 days if you come into contact with COVID, hence why I'm now at home in garden, this will still apply after June 21st.
Unfortunately it probably will from all reports.
Heard a few discussions on the radio this morning and I get the feeling the government
are starting to soften people up to get used to the idea of pushing back the June 21st date by a couple of weeks.
 
It was Chinese negligence that led to the circumstances for a virus to emerge. They had the warning with the wet markets, this isn't the first virus to emerge in this way.

Negligence should mean they are held responsible, to the point where they pay massive reparations to the world.

It won't happen, but it should happen.

Your reasoning is akin to someone releasing a rabid tiger into a shopping centre, and then blaming those attacked for not defending themselves. It doesn't make sense. Ultimate culpability rests with China and China alone.
Reparations? Sets a shaky precedent for historic and future epidemiology.
Can India make a claim for Cholera pandemics? Spanish Flu, Aids - who is responsible for that. Attributable to America?

And, do you calculate based on country response? Because the impact on one country would be much less than the impact on GB or the US - who takes responsibility for that? China or those countries. Can you limit the reparations because of a countries contribution to spread, because of their contributory negligence?

if you go down your route, what will happen in future is that countries will completely stop reporting on viruses to the WHO and lock down blaming others rather than cooperating with an international response.

Effort should be made to reduce the possibility of it happening again. Reparations seems counter productive to that.

And my reasoning is nothing like your analogy.
 
Reparations? Sets a shaky precedent for historic and future epidemiology.
Can India make a claim for Cholera pandemics? Spanish Flu, Aids - who is responsible for that. Attributable to America?

And, do you calculate based on country response? Because the impact on one country would be much less than the impact on GB or the US - who takes responsibility for that? China or those countries. Can you limit the reparations because of a countries contribution to spread, because of their contributory negligence?

if you go down your route, what will happen in future is that countries will completely stop reporting on viruses to the WHO and lock down blaming others rather than cooperating with an international response.

Effort should be made to reduce the possibility of it happening again. Reparations seems counter productive to that.

And my reasoning is nothing like your analogy.

There's no point talking about the "how" of reparations, as it won't happen anyway. I'm saying it should happen, not that it will.

What I'm hoping for is that China is shamed on the world stage and loses influence. That really should happen, but again it probably won't.

As for precedent, China is uniquely negligent here. They were told, they escaped with SARS etc. by getting lucky, and COVID is the result of their negligence continuing. A virus can emerge anywhere for any reason, but China literally cultivated the perfect environment for it; other countries do not. That is negligence.

And the analogy is fine. That's precisely what you're saying - you aren't placing culpability on the origin and instead on the reaction, when it should be obvious that no reaction would be needed if it wasn't originated in the first place.

E.g. people wouldn't need to kill the rabid tiger if the rabid tiger wasn't let out in the first place.
 
Regarding COVID certificates for events, it's inevitable solely due to event insurance. I imagine a certificate system will be a prerequisite for insuring larger events. People just need to accept it, akin to needing vaccinations for going abroad to certain countries etc.
 

New coronavirus cases in the UK have exceeded 3,000 for the first time since mid-April, but Financial Times analysis suggests the high proportion of people vaccinated is likely to blunt the force of any “summer wave”.


They really should temper the rise in cases with the rise in tests
 
Yeah as I said a few pages back, I don't believe at all China created this in a lab - but as long as they're held accountable for all this then I don't really care if others want to believe that or not. Whether on purpose or through negligence, it's their fault.
If the question is “are both hypotheses possible?” the answer is yes. Both are possible. If the question is “are they equally likely?” the answer is absolutely not. One hypothesis requires a colossal cover-up and the silent, unswerving, leak-proof compliance of a vast network of scientists, civilians, and government officials for over a year.

lol lol lol
As if this is so hard to pull when it comes to PRC....
 
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