Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[TN Toffee]

I generally try to be optimistic but in this instance I sadly think it will become a problem with reaching herd immunity, certainly on a regional basis but likely overall.

Of particular concern is the percentage of front line healthcare workers who, at least so far, seem vaccine hesitant.

Vaccine Hesitancy vs. Vaccine Refusal: Nursing Home Staffers Say There’s a Difference - KFF Health News

It’s becoming increasingly clear that decision-making about the covid vaccine is complicated and multifaceted, which means persuading people to say yes will be, too.

khn.org

It seems like there is also a segment of the population that are willing to get it, but also aren’t so eager to get it that they’ve been willing to jump through even the minimal hoops required right now to do so. Once it gets to the point where a person can just walk into a pharmacy near their house on their day off work with no prior planning required, or get one during a routine visit to their doctor, I think that will help.

 

[TN Toffee]

OMG people are so dumb.

The Latest Anti-Vax Myth: 'Vaccine Shedding'

Miami school cited it as the reason for rejecting vaccinated teachers

www.medpagetoday.com

 

[LinekersLegs]

In fairness over there it is quite difficult to lockdown when the working conditions are so bad, they basically have to weigh up whether to lock down and let people go unpaid/go hungry or to stay open.

When there was the hard lockdown last year there was also mass migration from cities to the countryside as people returned to family so they didn’t starve. If that happens now it will just transmit the virus to other areas where there is even less infrastructure to deal with the sick.

Perhaps something like they did in China where everyone locked down but food deliveries coordinated by military and paid for by the state however not sure that is even possible in a democracy.

 

[LinekersLegs]

It seems like there is also a segment of the population that are willing to get it, but also aren’t so eager to get it that they’ve been willing to jump through even the minimal hoops required right now to do so. Once it gets to the point where a person can just walk into a pharmacy near their house on their day off work with no prior planning required, or get one during a routine visit to their doctor, I think that will help.

I think also there are a certain segment that just need a bit of time, who’ll see their family/friends get the shot and not keel over and be reassured. Being able to do some activities/jobs with vaccination (even if no vaccine passport) will also nudge a few others.

Not the ideal way to get it but there will be the Darwinian effect of some groups getting natural immunity which, when added to the more robust vaccine immunity, might help overall slow spread although natural immunity doesn’t seem great against variants so far.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Hopefully this decrease continues.

 

[roydo]

Hopefully this decrease continues.

Hopefully, but the cautionary thing is that covid cases dont drop suddenly, which the message says happened.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Hopefully, but the cautionary thing is that covid cases dont drop suddenly, which the message says happened.

Yeah, very hard to tell as official Indian government are very dubious, in part because when you have a huge outbreak hard for testing to keep up but also because there seems to be an intentional political effort to suppress how bad it is.

However it would fit with earlier models that cases would be dropping in that region so cross fingers,

Mumbai: Covid-19 fatalities may peak by the first week of May, say scientists

The second wave of Covid-19 cases in Mumbai may be at its peak now and fatalities are likely to peak by the first week of May, according to modelling and data analysis by two separate groups of scientists | Mumbai news

www.hindustantimes.com

 

[Wizard]

This town in Japan has a novel way of getting back on track

Covid: Japan town builds giant squid statue with relief money

Noto, which is known for its flying squid, hopes the giant statue will draw back tourists.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Barnfred 55]

They aren't helping themselves by not putting the country in to lockdown already...

The Indian government really aren't looking good tbh.

I can only see this getting much worse (if that's even imaginable) if they don't go into lockdown, at least in the major cities. There's certainly no chance of things improving through the vaccination route.

Even if they went into total lockdown today, you'd still expect daily infections to rise to around 500,000 over the next couple of weeks before the lockdown starts taking effect. And how many more are catching and dying of covid without even being tested.?

 

[LinekersLegs]

@MikelsGoat perhaps this covid fertility discussion is more to your liking

 

[Mrk]

I can only see this getting much worse (if that's even imaginable) if they don't go into lockdown, at least in the major cities. There's certainly no chance of things improving through the vaccination route.

Even if they went into total lockdown today, you'd still expect daily infections to rise to around 500,000 over the next couple of weeks before the lockdown starts taking effect. And how many more are catching and dying of covid without even being tested.?

This is what makes it all the more depressing - the Indian figures are just not credible - their death rate stands at 161 per 1 million people. Compare that to between 1500 to 2000 for most of Europe and the USA. Are we really to believe that Indian healthcare is more capable of treating Covid?

That's not to say the Indian authorities are massaging the figures - it could simply be because it's so hard to accurately gather data, but it does suggest theres an even larger human tragedy unfolding than we think.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

It's an endemic now I reckon, the UK and Israel and the likes have solved it, if not killed it.

 

[Goat]

@MikelsGoat perhaps this covid fertility discussion is more to your liking

Im gutted, I really want the snip, but it went VERY, VERY badly for my cousin, so not a chance I let any Doctor near Jeff with a sharp object.

 

[davek]

It's an endemic now I reckon, the UK and Israel and the likes have solved it, if not killed it.

Everyone else...

 

[Tramps_mate]

Im gutted, I really want the snip, but it went VERY, VERY badly for my cousin, so not a chance I let any Doctor near Jeff with a sharp object.

Just whip it out at the last minute.. Should be fine!