Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[ToffeeTim]

The economy needs to fully reopen over the next few weeks. I no longer see the justification for further delays, and people's jobs and long-term wellbeing are starting to become the priority.

 

[davek]

That's business, isn't it?

 

[gav1985]

Didn't say you were mate....though you're lying down with dogs with fleas on this issue on here right now.

Look at India and places like it. Look at the UK in the winter. Isn't it enough we can do what we can right now in order to get on with life? Do we simply HAVE TO have people indoors en masse (which it will be after May 17th) in order to 'live'?

My point is a simple one at root: why invite another surge and mega death rates again? WHY?!?!?!

I haven't once said we need to get inside anywhere tbh. At least I don't think I have anyway.

If things are done correctly and in a sensible timeframe then I have no issue with it. If things start to go south again then we have to stop and think about the best way forwards from there. It isn't black and white. Nobody can be 100% sure of what will happen. The vaccines could make it so this thing is nothing more than an annoyance. They may fail.

I try to look at things objectively and see both sides of the argument. You seem so set in how you view this that you are incapable of seeing reason or another side of an argument.

 

[davek]

The economy needs to fully reopen over the next few weeks. I no longer see the justification for further delays, and people's jobs and long-term wellbeing are starting to become the priority.

*looks around the globe - globe on fire wioth a rampant killer virus...looks at at UK border controls*

Yes, let's open everywhere up.

 

[ToffeeTim]

That's business, isn't it?

You claim to be a socialist but apparently have no issue with low paid workers being laid off.

I don't get it.

I'll leave it at that.

 

[JLW]

Didn't say you were mate....though you're lying down with dogs with fleas on this issue on here right now.

Look at India and places like it. Look at the UK in the winter. Isn't it enough we can do what we can right now in order to get on with life? Do we simply HAVE TO have people indoors en masse (which it will be after May 17th) in order to 'live'?

My point is a simple one at root: why invite another surge and mega death rates again? WHY?!?!?!

Dave can I just ask what was your pre-Covid day to day life like?
It seems to me yours hasn’t changed much and you can still do everything you normally done.

 

[ToffeeTim]

*looks around the globe - globe on fire wioth a rampant killer virus...looks at at UK border controls*

Yes, let's open everywhere up.

I would happily have very strong border controls on overseas travel this summer. I think we could reopen the UK economy with very low amounts of restrictions, if we ensured that there wasn't much overseas travel in and out of the country.

Opening the economy internally within the UK this summer should be a big priority. Overseas travel should not be a priority, but that's just my opinion.

 

[davek]

I haven't once said we need to get inside anywhere tbh. At least I don't think I have anyway.

If things are done correctly and in a sensible timeframe then I have no issue with it. If things start to go south again then we have to stop and think about the best way forwards from there. It isn't black and white. Nobody can be 100% sure of what will happen. The vaccines could make it so this thing is nothing more than an annoyance. They may fail.

I try to look at things objectively and see both sides of the argument. You seem so set in how you view this that you are incapable of seeing reason or another side of an argument.

My argument is fueled by having seen 127,000 people put in the ground prematurely. Does that agitate me and make me angry? Yes. But I dont have the monopoly on that, I know.

We've had 2 massive spikes in death. We have to do all we can to avoid a 3rd.

By the way, what happened to the politicians and their media commentators using the phrase "there can be no return to the old normal"?

Why aren't we seeing and hearing that now? Is it bad for business?

These politicians and business owners and their helpers in the media will get us and ours killed.

Dont let them suck you into "the old normal". That has gone for the time being.

Be vigilant. Stay safe. Keep your own safe. Dont fall for the 'normalisation' propaganda.

 

[roydo]

Me or my circumstances.

It's a playing the man and not the ball situation.

True, I dont know, hence I said "my observations", based on your disregard for anyone with the face to start a business or employ folk. And total disdain for folk who will lose possibly a life time of work through no fault of their own.

Hard Lines I think the phrase was.

Well my observation of anyone who holds those views is they must be insulated from such concerns.

As for the future, all things covid, I remain in the cautious and careful camp. As restrictions get lifted, infections will rise, as sure as a busy motorway has more accidents than a quiet one does. But wearing a seat belt will help.

I will continue in my little bubble, but I do smile when I see folk starting to live a bit more life over the last few weeks.

 

[davek]

I would happily have very strong border controls on overseas travel this summer. I think we could reopen the UK economy with very low amounts of restrictions, if we ensured that there wasn't much overseas travel in and out of the country.

Opening the economy internally within the UK this summer should be a big priority. Overseas travel should not be a priority, but that's just my opinion.

Those airports should be open for trade only (in extreme cases like family bereavements then people could travel). Nothing outside that.

 

[davek]

True, I dont know, hence I said "my observations", based on your disregard for anyone with the face to start a business or employ folk. And total disdain for folk who will lose possibly a life time of work through no fault of their own.

Hard Lines I think the phrase was.

Well my observation of anyone who holds those views is they must be insulated from such concerns.

As for the future, all things covid, I remain in the cautious and careful camp. As restrictions get lifted, infections will rise, as sure as a busy motorway has more accidents than a quiet one does. But wearing a seat belt will help.

I will continue in my little bubble, but I do smile when I see folk starting to live a bit more life over the last few weeks.

We all agree that the protection of life is paramount.

We're all united on that.

 

[roydo]

Those airports should be open for trade only (in extreme cases like family bereavements then people could travel). Nothing outside that.

I actually agree with you on that. Other than the early day repatriation flights, I struggle to see why anyone would choose to fly in or out of the UK in all this. Or anywhere else for that matter.

Maybe I am the odd ball in thinking that.

 

[JLW]

Those airports should be open for trade only (in extreme cases like family bereavements then people could travel). Nothing outside that.

I work outside of the Uk and travel roughly every 5-6 weeks, so your saying I shouldn’t be allowed to go to work??

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Oh I love their magical pills

 

[roydo]

We all agree that the protection of life is paramount.

We're all united on that.

Dont need any lectures on that thanks.