Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[NilSatisOptimum]

Please for the love of god, when things open, can people just follow the freaking guidelines so the people in power don’t have reasons to keep restrictions going

Well noted throughout history once government gets power over it's people they are very reluctant to give it back. Worrying trend now with Tories. The pandemic presented them with opportunity to fill their greed and erode our liberties.

 

[BlueToff]

Well noted throughout history once government gets power over it's people they are very reluctant to give it back. Worrying trend now with Tories. The pandemic presented them with opportunity to fill their greed and erode our liberties.

Surely some Labour mp’s have also voted for this?

 

[BlueStevie35]

Hospital figures - 80 deaths were announced today, down 1 on yesterday and down 33 on last Thursday. 73 deaths were in English hospitals, up 4 on yesterday and down 24 on last week. The 7 day rolling average falls to 76.71

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 63 deaths were announced today, down 35 on yesterday and down 32 on last Thursday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 74.14

For the 60 day cut off, 134 deaths were announced today, down 75 on yesterday and down 50 on last Thursday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 154.29

 

[Barnfred 55]

Surely some Labour mp’s have also voted for this?

I'd imagine the only ones who voted against it would have been Tories. But since when have facts got in the wy of good conspiracy theories? lol

 

[BlueToff]

I'd imagine the only ones who voted against it would have been Tories. But since when have facts got in the wy of good conspiracy theories? lol

And unfortunately it’s those Tories that are the dangerous ones if they keep pushing to release the restrictions earlier than planned

 

[TheSecondComing]

Because people on the left have got themselves into such a strange twist of moral obligation and self-righteousness that it'll be very difficult for them to ever come out of it.

It's like the YUPPIES who were screaming lockdown this time last year and that the lockdown wasn't enough and that everybody must never leave their house, yet in June were out on the streets for BLM.

Issue is, on the other side, you get the right-wing idiots who don't care about anything as long as they're not directly impacted or just are so put off by the idea of the 'left' - and what part of that has become, the self-righteous part, the overly politically correct part (the ones saying that that stupid message going around about James is promoting transphobia, for example), that they'll automatically just vote for this Tory government.

It's all a big mess.

have to agree here.

Blurred lines have been caused over the last 12 months.

Lockdown is fine, we should all be socially responsible and avoid gathering of large people but I have seen more and more that this can be blurred depending if it suits your political agenda.

How dare you protest about lockdowns but agreed 100% with the BLM ones.

You can’t pick and choose which protests are ok, well soon our evil Tory government will be able to so I assume some lefties will be happy with this...

 

[peteblue]

Spot on Toff

Tuesday 10th March, the stats team from Imperial college London, were telling SAGE that, on the infection chart, we were 4-6 weeks behind Italy.
Friday 13th March, SAGE became aware that ICL were working on data that was 2 weeks old, but believing they were up to date.
Monday 16th March, all hell breaks loose when we find out where we really are on the infection chart. Johnson goes on TV to address the country, telling those in the high risk groups (over 70 and medically vulnerable) to self isolate, and all other people to stay at home if possible,
Friday 20th March. All pubs and restaurants formally closed.
Monday 23rd March, Johnson announces formal shutdown.

In hindsight, Johnson could have ordered a formal shutdown on Monday 16th. But SAGE wanted to do further analysis, particularly on schools, before doing this plus they also needed to work on things like the financial package for business's and their workforce. And in fairness, you can count back from the peak in infections in early April that the turning point was 16th March when Johnson told people to stay at home, rather than 23 March when the formal shutdown started. This was borne out by the number of news reports we were seeing of empty pubs and landlords asking for more direction. I witnessed it myself when I went for lunch at a very popular venue on the Wednesday and me and the missus were the only diners in there. All the big sports events had already closed down by then too.

So, are you saying that Boris is not a murderer and butcher then......

 

[grandjoeblue]

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Couldn't have put it better Toff. The Russian government murder, cheat, steal and embezzle, and then laugh at the world when they're accused. I don't think the USA are that great either to be fair to him, but not in the same league as Russia.

I actually feel sorry for the Russian people who aren't part of their government or security forces. I'm sure most have had to deal with hardships we in this country can not even imagine.

At least we're from the UK the country of saints with a great history of being kind to nations like India etc..

 

[BlueToff]

They really are thick, aren't they

"Fancy a pint after work?"

"Yeah. Give me a week."

 

[TheSecondComing]

Someone suggest me a country to emigrate to am fed up to ears of this country

 

[Amw79]

Oh dear. We all know, or at least believe due to hindsight, that we should have locked down a bit earlier. The use of the words, murderer or butcher, are not really accepted by anyone who doesn’t have a political agenda on this issue....

Not quite right this though. It’s not just hindsight. There was plenty of foresight saying we needed to lockdown before we did.
I’ve said this before, but I was on a Training course in a Liverpool hotel the day of, and day after the Liverpool / Athletico game. The hotel was full of Spanish fans (who were under the cosh with Covid) and dozens of Chinese RS fans who’d flown in for the game as well.

It was absolute madness and we all knew it at the time. Even the 15 of us on this course together knew, it was stupid us all being together in an enclosed space, as it was the worst kept secret that we’d all be locked down within a couple of weeks, so delaying it was a ridiculous decision.

I’m not in the “Boris is a murderer“ camp, but passing it off as - “well, with hindsight, maybe he got it wrong” - is rewriting history a bit, and letting poor decision making go unchallenged.

 

[grandjoeblue]

They really are thick, aren't they

"Fancy a pint after work?"

"Yeah. Give me a week."

Laughable. You will end up with 10 young lads gathering in a house to avoid all the effort.

I'm sure that will help to ensure all pubs struggle to make any money at all too.

 

[TheSecondComing]

Laughable. You will end up with 10 young lads gathering in a house to avoid all the effort.

I'm sure that will help to ensure all pubs struggle to make any money at all too.

Vaccine Passports are a terrible idea but this is nearly as bad.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Vaccine Passports are a terrible idea but this is nearly as bad.

Its probably even worse, destroys the industry.

 

[TheSecondComing]

Its probably even worse, destroys the industry.

A industry that is struggling anyway, Marstons and such were struggling prior to COVID never mind local operators