Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[jinkyali]

The AZ vaccine was trialled in Brazil. It was tested against this variant.

 

[tsubaki]

I hated leaving the EU, the constant pathetic memes and jokes let alone media scaremongering, but if we stayed in, we would have been in a right nasty mess with Covid and vaccine access.

no we wouldn’t

 

[Moomin]

The world leader doing its job again. 100% reliable against serious versions of every variant of covid.

Personally I would feel much more comfortable having the AZ vaccine although obviously you take whatever you are given.

Johnson & Johnson??

 

[peteblue]

I hated leaving the EU, the constant pathetic memes and jokes let alone media scaremongering, but if we stayed in, we would have been in a right nasty mess with Covid and vaccine access.

Indeed...

 

[peteblue]

no we wouldn’t

How do you work that one out.....

 

[grandjoeblue]

Johnson & Johnson??

Stick 5 of them into my arm for all I care.

 

[tsubaki]

How do you work that one out.....

Because we were still following EU rules when we signed those deals pete. EU countries themselves have signed independent deals with vaccine manufacturers as well.

This “if we’d have stayed in we wouldn’t have been able to do this” is a fib.

 

[peteblue]

Because we were still following EU rules when we signed those deals pete. EU countries themselves have signed independent deals with vaccine manufacturers as well.

This “if we’d have stayed in we wouldn’t have been able to do this” is a fib.

We would indeed have been able to do it, technically, but we would have done exactly as Germany and France did, and you know it. Even though we had already left, many on here were screaming out saying we must join the EU purchase programme, so just imagine what it would have been like being still inside. We would have been stuffed, just like the rest of Europe......

 

[peteblue]

Johnson & Johnson??

I’m not sure baby powder works tbh.....

 

[tsubaki]

We would indeed have been able to do it, technically, but we would have done exactly as Germany and France did, and you know it. Even though we had already left, many on here were screaming out saying we must join the EU purchase programme, so just imagine what it would have been like being still inside. We would have been stuffed, just like the rest of Europe......

no we wouldn’t have, pete

The current success of our vaccination programme is down to two things - the availability of the vaccines (which is and always was in our hands) and the NHS (which of all the health systems in the world is best placed to do this sort of mass treatment).

The most positive thing our government did with regards to a foreign country is making Oxford work with AZ rather than the US firm initially mentioned; that guaranteed it wouldn’t be filched by Trump (and it would have been).

Even joining the EU procurement scheme wouldn’t have been guaranteed to delay it; in fact us being in it and having approved it might have resulted in them approving it earlier themselves.

 

[Moomin]

Stick 5 of them into my arm for all I care.

5 of what??

 

[peteblue]

no we wouldn’t have, pete

The current success of our vaccination programme is down to two things - the availability of the vaccines (which is and always was in our hands) and the NHS (which of all the health systems in the world is best placed to do this sort of mass treatment).

The most positive thing our government did with regards to a foreign country is making Oxford work with AZ rather than the US firm initially mentioned; that guaranteed it wouldn’t be filched by Trump (and it would have been).

Even joining the EU procurement scheme wouldn’t have been guaranteed to delay it; in fact us being in it and having approved it might have resulted in them approving it earlier themselves.

Yeah, ok.....

 

[Brennan]

no we wouldn’t have, pete

The current success of our vaccination programme is down to two things - the availability of the vaccines (which is and always was in our hands) and the NHS (which of all the health systems in the world is best placed to do this sort of mass treatment).

The most positive thing our government did with regards to a foreign country is making Oxford work with AZ rather than the US firm initially mentioned; that guaranteed it wouldn’t be filched by Trump (and it would have been).

Even joining the EU procurement scheme wouldn’t have been guaranteed to delay it; in fact us being in it and having approved it might have resulted in them approving it earlier themselves.

The number of vaccines procured and used to this point by the UK had we remained in the EU would have been far less. Just because we technically could have acted independently of the EU doesn’t mean we would have.

There was controversy within the bloc over Germany signing for an additional 30 million from Pfizer. We have signed agreements for hundreds of millions of doses.

 

[BlueToff]

There's still no variant, as far as I'm aware, that causes any risk to any of the currently licenced vaccines when it comes to the vaccines stopping serious illness.

It's all about the efficacy against infection (which I know is obviously a concern because if the variants can carry on spreading then they could mutate further).

 

[davek]

We would indeed have been able to do it, technically, but we would have done exactly as Germany and France did, and you know it. Even though we had already left, many on here were screaming out saying we must join the EU purchase programme, so just imagine what it would have been like being still inside. We would have been stuffed, just like the rest of Europe......

Just like Austria and Denmark have bent the knee to Berlin and Paris in going it alone for vaccines?