Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Prof Andrew Hayward, a member of the UK government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage):

Looking back on the beginning of the pandemic, Hayward, a professor of infectious disease epidemiology at UCL, said: “I think one of the reasons that we’ve had so many deaths is that we left things far too late, in terms of taking more restrictive measures.

“We should have been taking social distancing measures – if not a full lockdown then other measures that were trying to separate people – much earlier. At that time, of course, we also didn’t really have the same mechanisms to measure how much disease there was in the community, so we were largely only really seeing the tip of the iceberg of cases.

“By the time you start to see major increases in deaths then it was really too late to take action, and hence the levels got extraordinarily high before we took effective action, and it took a long, long time for them to go back down again.”

Asked if he thought epidemiologists did not really have the ear of government in early March last year, Hayward said: “The concept, you know, the political concept of going into lockdown and doing something like that seemed so extraordinary.

I think we didn’t learn our lesson from that and we didn’t really learn the lesson that lockdowns are going to be way, way more effective if you start them earlier.”

Hayward said it was much easier to put out a very small fire than put out a big forest fire. “When it came to the following autumn, we didn’t learn that lesson,” he said.


In other words, political decisions caused mass death. Conscious political decisions. Twice the UK Government went with a policy of allowing the virus to take hold - the second time knowing that the first failure led to mass death. Which is why lawyers are calling for the International Criminal Court to broaden its remit to such politically accelerated catastrophes.
 
£37bn on Dido Harding's financial black hole known as Test & Trace.

Staggering amount of money.
It's hard to know where to put some of this information about Covid19...a lot of it easily goes in to the 'Scummy Tories' thread also.

They are a corrupt political party operating at the edge of the law. This is African or South American levels of corruption we're dealing with here.
 
It's hard to know where to put some of this information about Covid19...a lot of it easily goes in to the 'Scummy Tories' thread also.

They are a corrupt political party operating at the edge of the law. This is African or South American levels of corruption we're dealing with here.

As long as it doesn’t plumb the depths of Scotland we should be ok......
 
What are you basing this on ?


If anyone has the slightest genuine interest in a cohesive UK approach better ask Johnson and his government why they only communicate with the first Minsters when it's politically convenient for them. So go fourth and multiply now the grass is a little greener, yet again, most of us don't care what Johnson dose.
 
If anyone has the slightest genuine interest in a cohesive UK approach better ask Johnson and his government why they only communicate with the first Minsters when it's politically convenient for them. So go fourth and multiply now the grass is a little greener, yet again, most of us don't care what Johnson dose.

None of which answers the question I asked you, which was what you’re basing your weird “Willy waving” comments on.
 
Most people will follow the rules as they always have. You were asking about English people being allowed into Wales for tourism. They aren’t, simple as that.

If i was too book via Hoseasons for a place in Wales i wouldn't be allowed due to my English address. I would have to use a Welsh address to enable me to book.
 

BBC still spouting tripe that you can still “spread it” even if you are vaccinated I see.....

Just like I said in this thread about the Cambridge study saying it cuts it..... it will soon be swept under the carpet because the MSM love to scaremonger.
 
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