Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[JLW]

Awful that, hopefully she gets it resolved ASAP.

I'd be fuming with the GP.

We are mate but this was the point of my original post, I'm sure there's many more people like this, maybe they don't see it as anything serious at the minute and maybe its not, but if its left and untreated or not removed then it can be.

 

[mill]

Just to explain my reasoning due to your ’unsure’.

do you know how much of the fall is attributed to the fact there is a global pandemic?
do you know how much of the fall is attributed to the fact that there are lockdown restrictions in place?

what do you think would be a bigger driver to people getting diagnosed?

the fact that health services are overwhelmed due to the fact that they are dealing with a global pandemic and are understaffed due to front line workers having a high risk of being exposed to the virus?

or

It being more difficult to get a GP appointment due to lockdown?

you can’t attribute the fall in diagnosis to ‘lockdown’. It’s likely to be a number of factors.

health services already being overwhelmed
people being scared to get treatment for fear of the virus
restrictions meaning it more difficult to get an appointment with a GP
excess deaths from COVID in the cohort of patients that are at high risk of cancer


there are so many potential factors. Simply attributing it to ’lockdown’ is ignoring many of these.

 

[JLW]

I agree that getting some normality back will be like being reborn after this last year. The issue is that is we had opened in Easter the modelling suggests that this would lead to 91,000 deaths. Following the slightly more cautious approach of the roadmap reduces that to 30,000 deaths. That number could be reduced further if the focus was on stopping people from dying. I personally would have liked to have seen the roadmap pushed back by a month.

I havent read in depth the new plan but 21st June is the date for normality to resume. What is the expected number of people vaccinated by then?

 

[Brennan]

I havent read in depth the new plan but 21st June is the date for normality to resume. What is the expected number of people vaccinated by then?

We could be at 30 million people double dosed by that point, assuming an average of 400k doses per day between now and the 29th March (12 weeks before June 21st).

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Hugging is baaaack

 

[ToffeeTim]

I havent read in depth the new plan but 21st June is the date for normality to resume. What is the expected number of people vaccinated by then?

It should be fairly high I'd say. They are talking about every adult over 18 being offered the first dose by 31 July. If that happens, it's much faster than I expected. I'm 27 so wasn't expecting a jab till maybe close to next Christmas

 

[tsubaki]

Lockdown was just a measure to protect the NHS, my issue is not with @JLW its with @[Deleted Member] and his peddling of anti lockdown / maska tweets from the likes of James Melville.

People who have been saying that lockdown is causing people to miss hospital appointment when its actually been brought in to protect these services.

sadly the absolute truth of that hasn’t resulted in those clowns stopping saying that

 

[Charro]

My mum was diagnosed with cancer back in September and has received every bit of treatment she could possible receive.

She even had blood tests delayed last week because there was so many people receiving them in clatterbridge.

The GP has been a mess though.

 

[BlueToff]

It should be fairly high I'd say. They are talking about every adult over 18 being offered the first dose by 31 July. If that happens, it's much faster than I expected. I'm 27 so wasn't expecting a jab till maybe close to next Christmas

I was astounded when the vaccine calculator stated late April to early June for my first one (that was a few weeks back).

That was based on 70% uptake, though. The current rate is 76% uptake and obviously it's all just based on ball park figures and the daily average of doses.

Still, as of last night, I'd be due between mid-May and the end of June.

 

[davek]

Dave people are suffering massively and you could say that the ones screaming LOCKDOWN or branding people breaking the rules Murderers are actually killing people themselves.
How many people are having health issues right now but have no option to get it treated, il bet over the next 12-18 months you will see more people than the average dying from Cancer, Alzheimer, Dementia etc.. due to being left with no treatment/missed appointments during this lockdowns.

Its inhumane with the way we have been living for the past 12 months, Life has to go on or you might as well drop a bomb on us all because what's the point in merely existing! You maybe happy with that but I'm not.

I've said before i would rather die in 5 years from now living a normal life than die in 10 years from now living this one.

Just to add, you keep banging the hospitality drum, most people i know work all week so they can go and have some fun in the hospitality sector
Cinema with ye bird, Nice restaurant, few beers in the pub with lads watching the match, going the match, a weekend away with ye missus in a hotel, concerts etc....

Maybe you don't do any of the above and that's fine but for many that's their pleasure in life.

No mate, you've got that arse about face.

A lockdown properly enforced (before a surge) frees up hospital space for normal appointments because they are having to deal with loads of infected people. Look at the effect on hospitals once even a belated lockdown is in place and a few weeks down the line.

 

[JLW]

We could be at 30 million people double dosed by that point, assuming an average of 400k doses per day between now and the 29th March (12 weeks before June 21st).

It should be fairly high I'd say. They are talking about every adult over 18 being offered the first dose by 31 July. If that happens, it's much faster than I expected. I'm 27 so wasn't expecting a jab till maybe close to next Christmas

Great. The nightmare is nearly over.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Not even sure why they have put a specific date on it after telling all and sundry it's data not dates, tells me the Government have learnt nothing from the last year...

So June 21st basically near enough when we came out of the first lockdown without a vaccine program, tell s me we are going to need above 3\4 of population vaccinated or we racking up some COVID deaths come set miserable wet weather from late September...

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Hugging is baaaack

What about bumming???

Will someone please think of the bumming

 

[Blue 1]

 

[BlueStevie35]

Not even sure why they have put a specific date on it after telling all and sundry it's data not dates, tells me the Government have learnt nothing from the last year...

So June 21st basically near enough when we came out of the first lockdown without a vaccine program, tell s me we are going to need above 3\4 of population vaccinated or we racking up some COVID deaths come set miserable wet weather from late September...

Considering we are at 18/19 million vaccinated at the moment, by June we’d be close to or at the government target of having the country fully vaccinated