Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[toffee82]

Totally hypothetical question. Theoretically, if everybody in the world self isolated for say a month (obviously totally impossible) but say they did, would the virus disappear?

Quite possibly.

But that could end up in more deaths than no restrictions.

There are many people who would die pretty quickly without any care.

 

[toffee82]

Have you got a graph with fully vaccinated in the population?

Thought not.

Cos there is no such thing.

 

[tsubaki]

People die, it's a fact of life and something we just have to accept. Even if we're getting an average of 20k deaths per year from Covid going forward I wouldn't want my life to be drastically changed because of it. I'll take the vaccine and hope I never catch it but something is going to kill me eventually. I'm not the kind of person that lives in fear of everything unlike Davek.

I'm pretty sure the vaccine will keep us safe or at the very least, a lot safer than we are without a vaccine.

Sorry, but that’s just wrong.

If there are thousands / tens of thousands of easily preventable deaths, then we as a society should look to prevent them.

If there’s a way of preventing those deaths, that also protects us and keeps society open in a pandemic without going through what we’ve just gone through, then we should do it.

This means we - government, employers, business and citizens - are going to have to do and accept things that didn’t happen before. Things like staying off work (and being able to stay off) when people feel symptoms starting, reporting it to the authorities, getting tested, even wearing masks in crowded areas etc). The government are going to have to get better at identifying and stopping outbreaks.

Otherwise, if the takeaway is “everyone dies” then what’s the point of anything?

 

[toffee82]

Sorry, but that’s just wrong.

If there are thousands / tens of thousands of easily preventable deaths, then we as a society should look to prevent them.

If there’s a way of preventing those deaths, that also protects us and keeps society open in a pandemic without going through what we’ve just gone through, then we should do it.

This means we - government, employers, business and citizens - are going to have to do and accept things that didn’t happen before. Things like staying off work (and being able to stay off) when people feel symptoms starting, reporting it to the authorities, getting tested, even wearing masks in crowded areas etc). The government are going to have to get better at identifying and stopping outbreaks.

Otherwise, if the takeaway is “everyone dies” then what’s the point of anything?

But many deaths in the elderly are not preventable unless we carry on in lockdown.
Some people die of a common cold.

Once the vaccine reduces serious illness in most and reduces transmission society has to open up.

I read in the FT in November that the average age of covid death was about 82.

Some years flu deaths have topped 25,000.

 

[BlueStevie35]

Weekend figures granted but hospital death figures are under 200 for today, first time in months it’s been that low

 

[whiteshadow]

Totally hypothetical question. Theoretically, if everybody in the world self isolated for say a month (obviously totally impossible) but say they did, would the virus disappear?

It would still be circulating in animal reservoirs and could potentially cross back over to humans.

So, probably not.

 

[Paulie]

Quite possibly.

But that could end up in more deaths than no restrictions.

There are many people who would die pretty quickly without any care.

Yeah true. Was just wondering out of interest tbh. Not one for herd immunity.

 

[tsubaki]

But many deaths in the elderly are not preventable unless we carry on in lockdown.
Some people die of a common cold.

Once the vaccine reduces serious illness in most and reduces transmission society has to open up.

I read in the FT in November that the average age of covid death was about 82.

Some years flu deaths have topped 25,000.

They are, though - flu tells us that, where comparable countries have fewer deaths than we do.

Please note the argument is not about opening up or not, it’s that we need to recognise that this crisis has exposed a massive gap in our defences (including national security) and that we need to close it.

 

[BlueToff]

 

[BlueToff]

 

[summerisle]

Great, we play City away.

 

[BlueToff]

 

[BlueToff]

Great, we play City away.

Be no difference then

 

[BlueToff]

 

[COYBL25]

Brace yourself for the storm of righteous indignation that`s on it`s way lol