Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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They are advising against it because they can't get it. Its all politics.

The vaccine is brilliant and works
That isn’t the case with the US, the FDA has the same policy with all of the vaccines that they need to pass Phase 3 trials based on US guidelines.

I don’t even think it true of Europe tbh, just different risk assessments, cultures and vaccine hesitancy.
 
The vaccine will likely have a huge impact on long covid too.

I don't have a problem with the current lockdown as its justified and most people will be the same but some on here want lockdown to continue forever. Worrying mindset.



Unfortunately it's born out of mistrust. It's great we are now vaccinating people and put it any positive way you can I'll agree.
However, that does not negate the fact our death toll. And how we come about this terrible figure.

Myself have some insight in health and social care and have practised at professional level. Frankly it's been of embarrassments to listen to our Government and its experts tell the nation we were prepared. While it deliberated the lockdowns with itself, that we had rings of steel round older people homes that turned out to be candy floss, that we had PPE, scrambling RAF planes to Turkey for mythical supplies of PPE, that we have world beating track trace. Is it face mask or is it face nappy debates, eat out to spread it about, schools work places restaurant and pubs are safe then the inevitable not safe.. And year on we are still waiting on some form of managed border control.

And course this response to Pandemic by our Government and its experts was contextualized from the onset, 20,000 dead being a good outcome, as of today 111,264 people dead. With another 400,000 plus people living long COVID. Is that a good outcome?

Not ashamed of vaccines or the roll outs, not wanting lockdown to continue, just don't trust the government or it's experts they have been found less than wanting and as evidence based practices go its awful.
 
Absolutely. I really don't envy the people having to make those calls as it is literally a case of deciding how many lives we can tolerate being lost against how many livelihoods we can tolerate being lost.
Health before livelihoods every time, if you are of poor health livelihood will be negatively affected anyway. Although this is not the mindset in the UK, prevention services are always first to go when cost saving measures are needed.
 
@NilSatisOptimum completely agree that the government have generally done a horrendous job.

Out of interest were did you get the long covid numbers? The majority of people do seem to get over long covid after 4-6 weeks from what I understand.
 
This latest leak about pubs being allowed to open without alcohol seems laughable. Why not just keep them closed until they can sell their primary product? Surely no dry pub makes money?
 
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This latest leak about pubs being allowed to open without alcohol seems laughable. Why not just keep them closed until they can sell their primary product? Surely no dry pub makes money?

If a pub does food, is a family pub and has accommodation, I’d say that those pubs will still be able to make money.

@peteblue correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the mark up on soft drinks huge ?
 
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