Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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peteblue said:
Only if it makes you happy. It really doesn’t matter that the U.K. has provided more jabs than Germany, France, Italy and Spain combined, there are some on here who will always find a way to spin the numbers and insist the U.K. is crap....
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It means f.a. if the first jabs are being wasted...which is what the experts who made them are all but telling this government.
 
peteblue said:
Only if it makes you happy. It really doesn’t matter that the U.K. has provided more jabs than Germany, France, Italy and Spain combined, there are some on here who will always find a way to spin the numbers and insist the U.K. is crap....
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pete if we did this properly, we’d be in the same place in terms of first doses given globally (third), and we would be much further up the second dose table (up to third).
 
tsubaki said:
would it surprise you to learn the PM’s dad has had both jabs in line with Pfizer guidance, Dave?
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It'd have surprised me if he hadn't.

The whole of the Tory Party elite and their families will have had two shots by now, and all the Tory Party donors and their families.

They're having a good crisis.
 
davek said:
It means f.a. if the first jabs are being wasted...which is what the experts who made them are all but telling this government.
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Which experts ? Oxford said it’s fine, AZ said it’s fine, the CMO and CSA Are the people who proposed it. Name one scientist who is jumping up and down and saying we are doing it wrong......
 
peteblue said:
The scientists have said we are doing this properly.....
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No pete, some scientists have said that (the JCVI, who we are told made this decision). Other scientists here disagree, and scientific opinion in other countries is not going down the route we are.
 
peteblue said:
How many people who have had a single dose have died through Covid ?......
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I hope it's none, but it;'s early days, so we wait and see. However, there's a wold of difference between a vaccine that can defend the body against Covid19 and one that will stop it becoming a fatal condition. An elderly and/or vulnerable person catching that will struggle to ever get back to where they were.
 
tsubaki said:
No pete, some scientists have said that (the JCVI, who we are told made this decision). Other scientists here disagree, and scientific opinion in other countries is not going down the route we are.
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Do you have no trust in U.K. scientists...do you only trust those in other countries......
 
davek said:
I hope it's none, but it;'s early days, so we wait and see. However, there's a wold of difference between a vaccine that can defend the body against Covid19 and one that will stop it becoming a fatal condition. An elderly and/or vulnerable person catching that will struggle to ever get back to where they were.
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So neither you nor your mate know the answer. AZ have test proof that once a first jab has been given, not a single person has been hospitalised nor died from Covid. Their CEO stated it quite clearly in backing the U.K. government approach. So let’s compare their trial results with your trial results.....
 
peteblue said:
Do you have no trust in U.K. scientists...do you only trust those in other countries......
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It’s not the scientists I have trust issues with Pete, it’s the people allergic to truth who are in charge.

Again, I really hope what they are doing works; I would like though for someone to admit what they are running the risk of, and whose lives they are risking, rather than the current spectacle of clapping themselves on the back every time a self created milestone is reached.
 
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