Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[tsubaki]

my work colleague has tested positive, I shared a car 2 days ago and subsequently I am now isolating.

hope you don’t get it, but if you do that it’s not serious

 

[Terrarian]

hope you don’t get it, but if you do that it’s not serious

Thanks, I feel totally fine at the moment, NHS just told me to isolate for 10 days, like I say Its my colleague I am worried about but she is only 21 so hopefully she will be ok.

 

[Billy Dean]

Thanks, I feel totally fine at the moment, NHS just told me to isolate for 10 days, like I say Its my colleague I am worried about but she is only 21 so hopefully she will be ok.

Hope you're both ok mate.

 

[Terrarian]

Hope you're both ok mate.

thanks mate

 

[Neiler]

Amid a deepening row, the [heavily redacted] EU-AstraZeneca contract has been published

The contract contains over a dozen uses of the phrase “best reasonable efforts”, and has redacted any mention of costs.

www.thejournal.ie

 

[BlueToff]

Amid a deepening row, the [heavily redacted] EU-AstraZeneca contract has been published

The contract contains over a dozen uses of the phrase “best reasonable efforts”, and has redacted any mention of costs.

www.thejournal.ie

Interesting. I honestly think both sides are badly at fault. EU Commissioners there sound as arrogant as ever, and AZ clearly didn't fulfil their obligation but again, why agree to a contract which is so open to semantics and interpretation?

Also, whatever the MEP says about the UK being part of the EU at the time (obviously that's correct), it now isn't, so again, how and why has the Commission - knowing full well that the UK would be out of the EU by the time these vaccines really started to roll up in production, allowed that to be written into the contract?

Reading that article, which I think does a good job of explaining the key points, then the only thing 'crystal clear' (to quote Von der Leyen) is that the contract left gaping holes and a lot left up to interpretation.

I'm sorry, but given the Commission took the contract out of the hands of Germany, Netherlands, Italy and France and insisted on renegotiating, it doesn't seem like they did a brilliant job of it.

 

[Neiler]

Interesting. I honestly think both sides are badly at fault. EU Commissioners there sound as arrogant as ever, and AZ clearly didn't fulfil their obligation but again, why agree to a contract which is so open to semantics and interpretation?

Also, whatever the MEP says about the UK being part of the EU at the time (obviously that's correct), it now isn't, so again, how and why has the Commission - knowing full well that the UK would be out of the EU by the time these vaccines really started to roll up in production, allowed that to be written into the contract?

Reading that article, which I think does a good job of explaining the key points, then the only thing 'crystal clear' (to quote Von der Leyen) is that the contract left gaping holes and a lot left up to interpretation.

I'm sorry, but given the Commission took the contract out of the hands of Germany, Netherlands, Italy and France and insisted on renegotiating, it doesn't seem like they did a brilliant job of it.

I agree mate, the contract seems very wishy, washy to me, quite surprised.

While lads will have a different opinions on the rights and wrongs here, seems like a poor price of legal contract work and as such, left the EU as low hanging fruit for any shortages. Perhaps hubris at play.

All that said I think the EU will have a sting in the tail somehow, it’s the worlds biggest political and trading block and can pack a whollop if it wants, rightly or wrongly. It will be interesting to see how this plays out!

Hopefully all will be good!

 

[Neiler]

Hearing we will get some kind of smoke from the EMA on AZ around or after 2.00pm.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I agree mate, the contract seems very wishy, washy to me, quite surprised.

While lads will have a different opinions on the rights and wrongs here, seems like a poor price of legal contract work and as such, left the EU as low hanging fruit for any shortages. Perhaps hubris at play.

All that said I think the EU will have a sting in the tail somehow, it’s the worlds biggest political and trading block and can pack a whollop if it wants, rightly or wrongly. It will be interesting to see how this plays out!

Hopefully all will be good!

The sting has been delivered, City of London clearing houses will be King no more, billions pounds gone, soon to become dollars and euros...

EU opens up to US clearing houses in blow to City of London

Brussels will allow US clearing houses operate throughout the EU in what could be a blow to the City of London's largest clearing agencies.

www.cityam.com

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

This article is more cooked than our cough cough sovereign border control...

The UK's half-baked Covid travel quarantine scheme will not work | Gabriel Scally

With visitors from only 22 countries having to isolate in hotels, the measures won’t do enough to drive down cases, says professor of public health Gabriel Scally

www.theguardian.com

 

[BlueToff]

The sting has been delivered, City of London clearing houses will be King no more, billions pounds gone, soon to become dollars and euros...

EU opens up to US clearing houses in blow to City of London

Brussels will allow US clearing houses operate throughout the EU in what could be a blow to the City of London's largest clearing agencies.

www.cityam.com

So the EU are taking their failure to write a solid contract on the UK's economic plans?

Great bunch of lads

Btw, I know this isn't the actual 'sting', it'll be - or should be - completely unrelated, given AZ isn't even a British company.

 

[arminisgod]

The J&J vaccine results are quite as promising as hoped

 

[maccavennie]

The J&J vaccine results are quite as promising as hoped

Do.you have a link mate.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Great bunch of lads

So the EU are taking their failure to write a solid contract on the UK's economic plans?

Hello Brexit Britain, its a big mean world of business in the 21 century, no hindsight is allowed, all fully documented by project fear... Geopolitics is a thing.

Btw, I know this isn't the actual 'sting', it'll be - or should be - completely unrelated, given AZ isn't even a British company.

And just like Pfizer is American but portrayed as German for British nationalistic sensitivities, he knew...

 

[davek]

Here we go. It's never just been about the virus has it?

Behviour needs to change. I dont think that's up for debate. The murderer's tried to go back to the old normal last summer and autumn and killed another 60,000.

If you dont want mass death every year, we have to change our society. Maybe you accept those losses, I and the majority of people dont.