Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[maccavennie]

The huge outbreak we are currently experiencing is due to government policy.

If you want to believe tory propaganda that its down to the public thats up to you.

mate it's not propaganda to say 400 people attending a wedding are knobheads of the highest order. Like if one of my mates said he's off to a party with 50 others do I want to go......well thats called being a knobhead and nothing to do with the government

We are allowed to show some self control and discipline without needing the governments permission.

 

[random]

The police is going easy on them. I said they should force them do at least 100 push-ups

With my fitness level, having to do 5 push ups is near enough capital punishment

 

[Sassy Colombian]

With my fitness level, having to do 5 push ups is near enough capital punishment

Haha, believe me I know. it is a torture that I endure every week, my least favorite exercise in my routine.

I bet you wouldn't need such capital punishment though, because you would be following the rules and masking

 

[Barnfred 55]

There will always be rogue elements, but the 12 months of slow action and ignoring scientific advice by Boris is by far the biggest factor in our incredible death toll.

I think you'll find that for the first 5/6 months they followed that scientific advice and certainly didn't ignore it. A lot of that advice turned out to be poor as it happens but neither the scientists nor the government ministers knew that at the time decisions were taken. If you get the time or the inclination, read the SAGE minutes from January to May and you'll see what I mean.

There's no doubt that they have strayed somewhat from scientific advice over the last 6 months and, in my opinion, were foolish to do so because they're out on a limb when things go wrong. The sensible thing to do was to continue following the experts advice, even if it turned out badly.

I'm not absolving the government of blame by the way. At the end of the day they are ultimately responsible and their lack of leadership during this pandemic has been has been obvious.

 

[grandjoeblue]

mate it's not propaganda to say 400 people attending a wedding are knobheads of the highest order. Like if one of my mates said he's off to a party with 50 others do I want to go......well thats called being a knobhead and nothing to do with the government

We are allowed to show some self control and discipline without needing the governments permission.

I think they're idiots obviously but I just don't think they are the cause.

Ultra Orthodox jews do not have phones and they do not believe in watching media etc. Clearly they should be heavily fined and policed same as everyone else.

Get all non essential businesses, nurseries etc closed NOW. If there are further issues you can then blame the general public.

Actually bothering to contact people who have tested positive when they are supposed to isolate might help as well.

 

[BlueToff]

Originally the AZ vaccine was to be 3 weeks between 1st and 2nd jabs.

"The US news site STAT referred to the move as “effectively turning [the UK] into a living laboratory.” It accused the UK of basing its new vaccination schedule “on small slices of evidence mined from ‘subsets of subsets’ of participants in clinical trials . . . and on general principles of vaccinology rather than on actual research into the specific vaccines being used.” It added, “If the efforts succeed, the world will have learnt a great deal. If they fail, the world will also have gained important information, though some fear it could come at a high cost.”

There has been multiple articles published - including one you linked yourself - which wrote about evidence of testing showing that the AZ one was more effective over 3 months.

It was an accident they found it, but that's kind of what science is about - testing theories and seeing what does and doesn't work.

The Pfizer one wasn't tested and I fully agree it should be 3 weeks and 3 weeks only.

 

[jaybx1878]

just been for my vaccine then, im only 40 but in the clinucally vulnerable list due to my diabetes, vaccine done in 5 mins then you have to wait 15 mins before you can go, we got the pfizer one

 

[BlueToff]

Client Challenge

can't wait for the test, track and trace for cakes

 

[grandjoeblue]

Client Challenge

can't wait for the test, track and trace for cakes

Some people thrive off this don't they. They actually want the world to be full of human robots who are scared of all germs.

 

[maccavennie]

I think they're idiots obviously but I just don't think they are the cause.

Ultra Orthodox jews do not have phones and they do not believe in watching media etc. Clearly they should be heavily fined and policed same as everyone else.

Get all non essential businesses, nurseries etc closed NOW. If there are further issues you can then blame the general public.

Actually bothering to contact people who have tested positive when they are supposed to isolate might help as well.

Well I'm assuming they knew what they had done was wrong as they all legged it when the police arrived.

 

[Haydn]

I assume the mutated virus has nothing to do with it then.....

If we accept that the new variant is more virulent and deadly what has the government done to tighten restrictions that were already inadequate ?

Workplace “Covid Safe” requirements are as loose as they ever were and allow employers to draw up Covid Policies which tick all the boxes but do little in practice to protect their employees.

 

[Simon Buttle]

I think they're idiots obviously but I just don't think they are the cause.

Ultra Orthodox jews do not have phones and they do not believe in watching media etc. Clearly they should be heavily fined and policed same as everyone else.

Get all non essential businesses, nurseries etc closed NOW. If there are further issues you can then blame the general public.

Actually bothering to contact people who have tested positive when they are supposed to isolate might help as well.

Tbh i think they know exactly what they are doing, there seems to be a real arrogance about them although their culture is fascinating tbh. This is a very interesting watch if not seen before it's 1/3 part thing (other parts are on the side bar)

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Merely from what I've seen, there seems to be a larger percentage of people who are getting the virus and suffering from more severe symptoms.

I'm not talking about hospitalisation but rather the symptoms that the majority of people get: less colds and more people feeling like boiled faeces.

It really is getting hold of younger, fitter people this time around

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I think you'll find that for the first 5/6 months they followed that scientific advice and certainly didn't ignore it. A lot of that advice turned out to be poor as it happens but neither the scientists nor the government ministers knew that at the time decisions were taken. If you get the time or the inclination, read the SAGE minutes from January to May and you'll see what I mean.

There's no doubt that they have strayed somewhat from scientific advice over the last 6 months and, in my opinion, were foolish to do so because they're out on a limb when things go wrong. The sensible thing to do was to continue following the experts advice, even if it turned out badly.

I'm not absolving the government of blame by the way. At the end of the day they are ultimately responsible and their lack of leadership during this pandemic has been has been obvious.

With all respect, this link highlights just how badly the gov acted during the first few months of this pandemic

cock-up after cock-up

they are to blame, NOT the people

A timeline of failure.

Through arrogance and incompetence, thousands have needlessly died.

timeline-of-failure.com

https://timeline-of-failure.com/

 

[peteblue]

If we accept that the new variant is more virulent and deadly what has the government done to tighten restrictions that were already inadequate ?

Workplace “Covid Safe” requirements are as loose as they ever were and allow employers to draw up Covid Policies which tick all the boxes but do little in practice to protect their employees.

What would you do ?....