Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[davids]

It’s aerosol spread mate. That’s how the droplets get from person to person.

But if you look back to Spring they were stating it was only droplets that you could pick up on hands from other surfaces which you then "self infected" yourself with. Not that it was floating around in the air. Which for some time it obviously has been.

 

[widnesblue]

Yeah but again, all pales in comparison to a massive pandemic overloading the NHS in the middle of winter.

As for the bold bit, give police the power to beat the crap out of them if they do - that'll soon stop it. We won't, but that's the answer - it's the reason China are controlling it much better; simply taking it seriously. There's an actual need for a bit more authoritarianism here; anti-vax and anti-lockdown protesters should be getting their heads caved in.

The police in this country and a lot of education and social services are out of touch with today’s kids. They are powerless when it comes to kids and the guidelines put in place. Kids have a lot more power now, more than ever. I deal with kids who would be classed as “vulnerable” but some of them just know how to play the game and get away with trouble. A lack of respect and discipline in kids today, they get labelled as “vulnerable” they know they can do whatever they want and get away with it. Sadly, a global
pandemic means nothing to them, as long as they can roam the streets, smoke week and get into trouble. They don’t care if they are spreading it. The police haven’t got the numbers to deal with getting kids off the street after school hours.

 

[LinekersLegs]

yes, and the outcome is a few thousand dead a year. If that can be prevented, shouldn't we?

Especially as some seasonal flu types are pretty bad for kids.

Coronavirus has spared American children. The flu has killed 144 kids so far this season.

As the novel coronavirus continues to spread, the flu has killed 22,000 Americans so far this season, including 144 children.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[davids]

I've expanded on my post.

If we can try and help, yes, but thousands die of flu which spreads like a common cold - and comes with the seasons.

Improved hygiene, hand washing, social distancing. Guess all these measures (and rightly so in regards the first two) will be in place for a long time yet, and that should help bring the spread of stuff like flu down too. Having people having to be tested and traced for stuff like that is a bit much to me.

Anyway, it's common sense? If you get ill, you don't tend to grub about everywhere do you? You're usually in bed and isolating that way.

Of the people that die every year of flu, I imagine it's generally the older, more vulnerable people. Will testing and tracing prevent them from being more susceptible to something like the common cold?

But then there is that term asymptomatic. Standard flu you have it and you know you have.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[grandjoeblue]

The last bit of your post. I keep wondering this...

I haven't been in a school, I have no need to. But surely they're very, very safely maintained. I keep seeing all this about a danger to teachers etc, but surely with everybody wearing masks/visors, every student getting temp checked, entire year groups getting sent home if one or two pupils test positive. Surely they're actually one of the safest places to be? Surely much safer than a supermarket, for example?

As you say, the issue then is outside of the school and then they come in and mix, but if they are all wearing protection and checked, then surely in theory the spread should be reduced?

I work in schools regularly, I've been to around 10-15 since the pandemic started and whilst they are trying their best if its transmitted through the air all of the measures won't have any impact. In primary schools I've only ever seen a few masks, they do tend to ask visitors to put masks on but staff and pupils don't wear masks. Schools just don't have the space to socially distance the kids.

I also think that kids will be more likely to mix outside of schools as parents will think well they're mixing in school anyway so whats the difference. This then creates further bad behaviours.

 

[Moomin]

I've expanded on my post.

If we can try and help, yes, but thousands die of flu which spreads like a common cold - and comes with the seasons.

Improved hygiene, hand washing, social distancing. Guess all these measures (and rightly so in regards the first two) will be in place for a long time yet, and that should help bring the spread of stuff like flu down too. Having people having to be tested and traced for stuff like that is a bit much to me.

Anyway, it's common sense? If you get ill, you don't tend to grub about everywhere do you? You're usually in bed and isolating that way.

Of the people that die every year of flu, I imagine it's generally the older, more vulnerable people. Will testing and tracing prevent them from being more susceptible to something like the common cold?

Pretty sure you mentioned you work in journalism?? Are you an apprentice for Toby Young by any chance?

 

[widnesblue]

The last bit of your post. I keep wondering this...

I haven't been in a school, I have no need to. But surely they're very, very safely maintained. I keep seeing all this about a danger to teachers etc, but surely with everybody wearing masks/visors, every student getting temp checked, entire year groups getting sent home if one or two pupils test positive. Surely they're actually one of the safest places to be? Surely much safer than a supermarket, for example?

As you say, the issue then is outside of the school and then they come in and mix, but if they are all wearing protection and checked, then surely in theory the spread should be reduced?

Can’t comment on mainstream schools, I work in a college that school kids come to for different reasons. They are just the laws put into place and can imagine them to be followed more in mainstream schools. It’s hard to judge because you could have a class of 25 learners in a classroom and only one teacher. If the teacher is writing on the board, they can’t keep eyes on all 25 kids. On a normal working day, I’d have 15 kids in my department, I’m the only tutor. If I’m teaching brickwork or plastering, got 15 kids in that one session. If one kid asks for my help, I always forgot to wear gloves and use the trowels they are using to show them what to do. So that’s a possible chance of it spreading if they have it. Luckily enough, no learners have tested positive, neither have I. If a learner tests positive, we’ve been told that we’ve gotta send them home and to give the centre a deep clean. They won’t shut schools down due to how much money it will cost the government. Are schools or education centres more safe, it’s hard to comment.

 

[Deckard2049]

I've expanded on my post.

If we can try and help, yes, but thousands die of flu which spreads like a common cold - and comes with the seasons.

Improved hygiene, hand washing, social distancing. Guess all these measures (and rightly so in regards the first two) will be in place for a long time yet, and that should help bring the spread of stuff like flu down too. Having people having to be tested and traced for stuff like that is a bit much to me.

Anyway, it's common sense? If you get ill, you don't tend to grub about everywhere do you? You're usually in bed and isolating that way.

Of the people that die every year of flu, I imagine it's generally the older, more vulnerable people. Will testing and tracing prevent them from being more susceptible to something like the common cold?

People will be calling for lockdowns/restrictions in the future to combat the flu. The rules of the game have changed now.

 

[davek]

Starmer - Bring in restrictions now.

Johnson - Curbs are probably about to get tougher.

Who's the daddy here?

Starmer, as he has all along, pushes at what he knows is an open door. The lockdown was always going to be the next step; as soon as heard the murderer on Marr's show this morning concede tougher measures were likely, he demanded it.

 

[Nymzee]

People will be calling for lockdowns/restrictions in the future to combat the flu. The rules of the game have changed now.

No they won't lol

 

[Moomin]

People will be calling for lockdowns/restrictions in the future to combat the flu. The rules of the game have changed now.

I doubt that will be the case.

 

[widnesblue]

I work in schools regularly, I've been to around 10-15 since the pandemic started and whilst they are trying their best if its transmitted through the air all of the measures won't have any impact. In primary schools I've only ever seen a few masks, they do tend to ask visitors to put masks on but staff and pupils don't wear masks. Schools just don't have the space to socially distance the kids.

I also think that kids will be more likely to mix outside of schools as parents will think well they're mixing in school anyway so whats the difference. This then creates further bad behaviours.

A lot of this is true, if you’re teaching, you don’t actually have to wear a mask or visor. One of the issues like you mentioned is the space, especially in primary schools. It’s hard to separate dinners and break times I’d imagine too in a primary school.

 

[Deckard2049]

No they won't lol

I can think of one person on this forum who will most definitely be calling for them.

 

[Tubey]

People will be calling for lockdowns/restrictions in the future to combat the flu. The rules of the game have changed now.

No they won't... just such a silly comment to make.