Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[dannyboy]

Bozo admitted that restrictions are about to get a whole load tougher... but it’s still not a national lockdown.

Bozo said schools are safe for children and they all parents should send their kids into school.
What about teachers Bozo... is it safe for them?

The thing is, schools are probably safe for a 30 year old teacher like me and the kids but schools are a breading ground for the virus and we have staff who are vulnerable and over 60. Like every other school I'd imagine.

I'm temporarily living at home whilst my mum's fella goes through chemo so a tumor can shrink before a proposed operation in March. With the virus out of control, I'm terrified that I'll be bringing covid into the house and even worse his operation will be cancelled.

Once again the Prime Minister dithers whilst lives are ruined.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

If you believe anything in Johnson's Torygraph mate your head must button up at the back.

Broadsheets, including the Telegraph, are acceptable sources as long as you take a broad section in. You'll find them all in academic institutes libraries and Athens accounts.

 

[PhilM]

The thing is, schools are probably safe for a 30 year old teacher like me and the kids but schools are a breading ground for the virus and we have staff who are vulnerable and over 60. Like every other school I'd imagine.

I'm temporarily living at home whilst my mum's fella goes through chemo so a tumor can shrink before a proposed operation in March. With the virus out of control, I'm terrified that I'll be bringing covid into the house and even worse his operation will be cancelled.

Once again the Prime Minister dithers whilst lives are ruined.

Isn't that the basis of what the union have apparently said: do not go to work if you believe that your setting/school etc. is risking your own health?

On the one hand, you have the government repeatedly saying, 'Look, schools are safe for children', while dodging the potential elephant in the room.

It may be safer for the children themselves, but can they guarantee that schools will not increase the r-rate and help facilitate the wider spread of the virus?

Then there's the risk to staff themselves. It's like the matron who said about hospitals being full of COVID patients and the rebuttal by a few doctors etc.

Now admittedly I didn't hear what she said, however I was thinking was she implying they had wards full of sick COVID patients or children with COVID?

There's a significant difference and if children are coming in with other issues but are COVID positive then surely that's a sign of the wider transmission?

My eldest two are off as they're in secondary school and we'd send our youngest in if that's the case, but the issue is the uncertainty of what will happen.

They either need to say we're keeping schools open or accept the possibility they may close, so people can plan.

 

[orchard]

Its safe for the kids...just not their teachers, school dinner ladies, caretakers etc etc or the elderly or vulnerable family members they come into contact with.

This lot know what they're doing. They've given up on fighting the virus and are just going for a Darwinian 'solution'.

There's also this:

My kids won't be going to school tomorrow. As far as we're concerned teir 4 means schools are closed. Both my wife and I have medical conditions that mean we should avoid catching this thing and the kids are the only route for it to get into our family. We've worked too damn hard and given up too much to risk catching it now for some populist lead government to screw it up for us.

 

[bullybeef]

Astonished that Liverpool one remains open for all those living in tier 4 to access.

It’s abundantly clear that the spread is caused by numpties (would like to use a much stronger word to describe them) not following the restrictions.

The Government need to step up their efforts to ensure people are doing the right thing and complying with the restrictions.

 

[dannyboy]

Isn't that the basis of what the union have apparently said: do not go to work if you believe that your setting/school etc. is risking your own health?

On the one hand, you have the government repeatedly saying, 'Look, schools are safe for children', while dodging the potential elephant in the room.

It may be safer for the children themselves, but can they guarantee that schools will not increase the r-rate and help facilitate the wider spread of the virus?

Then there's the risk to staff themselves. It's like the matron who said about hospitals being full of COVID patients and the rebuttal by a few doctors etc.

Now admittedly I didn't hear what she said, however I was thinking was she implying they had wards full of sick COVID patients or children with COVID?

There's a significant difference and if children are coming in with other issues but are COVID positive then surely that's a sign of the wider transmission?

My eldest two are off as they're in secondary school and we'd send our youngest in if that's the case, but the issue is the uncertainty of what will happen.

They either need to say we're keeping schools open or accept the possibility they may close, so people can plan.

That's exactly it mate. Tubey made a point a few pages back that the main reason they're so reluctant to close the schools has much less to do with children's welfare and more to do with parents being prevented from working.

That's fair enough but this virus is out of control and once again they are just trying to dither their way through it. Another complete mess.

 

[bullybeef]

At the outset both Bozo and Sunak stated that no one would lose out financially by doing the right thing to help fight Covid.

That was a big load of cobblers... with millions not getting any financial support.

The Government are not to be trusted on anything. It’s not surprising that they would be out on their ear if there was an election tomorrow.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Commence operation carry on as normal until the crap really hits the fan and everything is forced to close for months to clear the backlog of patients. I wonder how many lives are going to be lost by this dithering which whatever ends in with the outcome of a complete lockdown.

They are brain dead.

 

[The binman chronicles]

The Government are not to be trusted on anything. It’s not surprising that they would be out on their ear if there was an election tomorrow.

Sad thing is it would probably be another landslide to them.

 

[PhilM]

Astonished that Liverpool one remains open for all those living in tier 4 to access.

It’s abundantly clear that the spread is caused by numpties (would like to use a much stronger word to describe them) not following the restrictions.

The Government need to step up their efforts to ensure people are doing the right thing and complying with the restrictions.

A friend of mine, who is a manager in a store of a national brand, is based in Liverpool One. They've had people from Warrington, Lancashire and Manchester.

Their customer services are even directing customers to ring stores that are open to check staff, thus actively suggesting people travel from afar.

 

[dannyboy]

Commence operation carry on as normal untill the crap really hits the fan and everything is forced to close for months to clear the backlog of patients. I wonder how many lives are going to be lost by this dithering which whatever ends in with the outcome of a complete lockdown.

They are brain dead.

I think everyone appreciates how difficult it is but they've shown a complete lack of leadership. Reactive and never proactive, adopting watch and wait policies rather than getting on the front foot. What are the chances they close all schools at some point next week after we've had another few days of transmission? It's decisions like that which are costing lives.

 

[Amw79]

Amazing really that the full lockdown came in under the banner of ‘we must avoid a second wave’. Remember that?

We’re now on the upward curve of the third wave, and seemingly nothing has been learnt. Terrible communication. Inability to make tough choices. Delaying decisions until the effective time has passed, and we’ve got Tory politicians talking about ‘tolerable’ levels of death. What a useless, incompetent shower of bellends.

 

[PhilM]

Amazing really that the full lockdown came in under the banner of ‘we must avoid a second wave’. Remember that?

We’re now on the upward curve of the third wave, and seemingly nothing has been learnt. Terrible communication. Inability to make tough choices. Delaying decisions until the effective time has passed, and we’ve got Tory politicians talking about ‘tolerable’ levels of death. What a useless, incompetent shower of bellends.

Marr was discussing how at nearly seven-thousand new cases a day there were people involved in SAGE calling for circuit breaks.

We're now a mere 800% (ish) above the seven-thousand mark with the probability it will continue to increase, and they're still suggesting we wait - e.g. inaction.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Its safe for the kids...just not their teachers, school dinner ladies, caretakers etc etc or the elderly or vulnerable family members they come into contact with.

This lot know what they're doing. They've given up on fighting the virus and are just going for a Darwinian 'solution'.

Unbelievable there was even a debate that younger people could or could not transmit. Similar with herd immunity and the mask wearing. Those who pursue wealth over health brought kicking and screaming into reality, likely when its them and theirs are staring this Virus in the face!

 

[tsubaki]

Whilst his mates in the press take swipes at teachers from the comfort of their own home. Brave people.

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This is the big worry for me - the level of active media support for the government is way beyond what is acceptable; in fact in cases like him, Pearson, Cole and others it’s probably crossed the line into complicity in what’s gone on.

This is going to guarantee them backing this lot for decades, for fear of what will come out if they ever lose power.