Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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sbbefc said:
It defies logic to keep gyms open. Indoor training spaces with people breathing heavily and touching equipment will result in transmissions. Some gyms will be better than others but even the good ones wont be risk free. I know someone who reckons he caught the disease at a gym. Right now we need a lockdown. It's already spiralling out of control and the repercussions of Christmas are still a few weeks away. Death tolls will eclipse those of the first wave. If the vaccination process goes as well as it can, all we have to do is hold out another month or so.
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What will happen to your job if we go into lockdown?

Will you follow your own advise and stay locked inside?

How about you do it anyway? Get ahead of the curve and stay indoors for three months?
 
Tubey said:
All of which means next to nothing.

Three key factors - duration of contact, being indoors and aerosolisation. Gyms have people indoors, breathing considerable amount of aerosols, for prolonged periods of time - the perfect environment for a virus. All gyms do is mitigate against droplet transmission - it isn't enough.

Rather than explain it in words, this video does it.



And this helps you visualise what a severe difference aerosolisation makes.



Gyms aren't safe in a viral pandemic that is transmissable via aerosol. That's the be all, end all of it.
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Nothing's safe. Nothing will ever be safe ever again. Let's just keep everything shut.

I'm depressed. I'm fed up of people calling for a lockdown which will see me lose both my jobs again, and they act like it's selfish to have any other care in the world.

It hits me hard, apologies.
 
I think you can suggest lockdown without having to scream that we need the strictest form and nobody should leave their house.

Someone going on a run or walk isn't doing any damage.
 
BlueToff said:
Nothing's safe. Nothing will ever be safe ever again. Let's just keep everything shut.

I'm depressed. I'm fed up of people calling for a lockdown which will see me lose both my jobs again, and they act like it's selfish to have any other care in the world.

It hits me hard, apologies.
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Yeah fair enough mate, no worries. I know the feeling, my job relies on this crap going away yesterday too.
 
BlueToff said:
Nothing's safe. Nothing will ever be safe ever again. Let's just keep everything shut.

I'm depressed. I'm fed up of people calling for a lockdown which will see me lose both my jobs again, and they act like it's selfish to have any other care in the world.

It hits me hard, apologies.
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Whats your job mate?
 
roydo said:
Whats your job mate?
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Sports reporting - lost that in March, managed to get it back. Jan/Feb is a quieter time - I'm freelance - and if the Prem goes, it's a big chunk of work gone.

Other job is doing marketing work and tenders work for a contractor. Unfortunately I have to go to site/office for that. If there's another lockdown where we can't do anything but work from home, or their work goes - which is a possibility - then I lose that job too.

And I'll get no support, again, like last time.

I know there's millions like me, I'm not meaning it to be a sob story. People in this thread have it worse I'm sure - I don't have to feed my family. But it's either in the media on Twitter (which I have to be on for work, deleted it in the first lockdown) that I just see the calls for strictest lockdown all the bloody time. And there just has to be another way. We're nearly there now, with the vaccines. I just don't see what people calling for themselves and others to be locked inside in the dead of winter for two months actually achieves.

Also worried about my dad, who relies on retail businesses and shops to be able to open for his work. He managed to get creative in the first lockdown, but another one and what he offers is probably gonna be seen as an unnecessary cost by some outlets - he lost one client already because of lockdown 1.

Anyway, I'll ease off as @Nymzee suggests and hopefully Everton brighten things up tomorrow.
 
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Tubey said:
Yeah fair enough mate, no worries. I know the feeling, my job relies on this crap going away yesterday too.
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Sorry Tubes, I know you meant well with it.

Just feel like there's calls for all these things to be done - maybe/probably rightly so - but the real focus just has to be on getting the vaccine out quickly.

People who run those small gyms - it's killing their livelihoods. It's killing PTs who need that job or whatever. The mass unemployment we're going to have risked because of the lockdown is already bad. I'm not sure another 2 months of one saves anything at this stage.

November wasn't bad and I can hack being in Tier 3 - everyone in this area has had to so no complaints. It has halved case growth too. Just don't think what we're seeing now is actually that unexpected, and if you look across Europe it's exactly the same in 2-3 countries (albeit ones that handled it better to begin with back in March).
 
BlueToff said:
Look, I haven't been to the gym since March. I'd rather not bother with the hassle of booking a slot etc. My friends and parents do go, and they all say the measures in place are really, really strict. Have to book a slot, only a certain number allowed, all the equipment cleaned - social distancing measures in place etc.

There's is a very big gym chain (Nuffield) so maybe it differs from gym to gym. Exercise and physical health should be promoted, though. If we had a healthier society, less people would have died from this.

If they shut again, then they all have to shut, but gyms opened up in the summer and again we didn't see a massive spike. The spike came from unis, schools and the changing weather and, then, not putting the most populous area of the country into Tier 3.
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The gym I go to us local authority. Timed slots. Space between the machine. You get an hour slot then closes for a deep clean.
 
BlueToff said:
Sports reporting - lost that in March, managed to get it back. Jan/Feb is a quieter time - I'm freelance - and if the Prem goes, it's a big chunk of work gone.

Other job is doing marketing work and tenders work for a contractor. Unfortunately I have to go to site/office for that. If there's another lockdown where we can't do anything but work from home, or their work goes - which is a possibility - then I lose that job too.

And I'll get no support, again, like last time.

I know there's millions like me, I'm not meaning it to be a sob story. People in this thread have it worse I'm sure - I don't have to feed my family. But it's either in the media on Twitter (which I have to be on for work, deleted it in the first lockdown) that I just see the calls for strictest lockdown all the bloody time. And there just has to be another way. We're nearly there now, with the vaccines. I just don't see what people calling for themselves and others to be locked inside in the dead of winter for two months actually achieves.

Also worried about my dad, who relies on retail businesses and shops to be able to open for his work. He managed to get creative in the first lockdown, but another one and what he offers is probably gonna be seen as an unnecessary cost by some outlets - he lost one client already because of lockdown 1.

Anyway, I'll ease off as @Nymzee suggests and hopefully Everton brighten things up tomorrow.
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Good luck mate. Its all I can offer I am afraid.
 
roydo said:
Good luck mate. Its all I can offer I am afraid.
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Thanks mate.

No worries, I'm sure I'll manage. I've tried not to worry, just the last few days have got to me. I see people demand this stuff and, even though I'm sure it comes from a good place, I feel sometimes perspective is missing.

Maybe another lockdown will be for the best. I'm just worried about what people will have left - and yes, worried about what I'll have left.

Paying a fair whack in tax yesterday hasn't helped the case, like, but at least it's done lol
 
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