Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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it makes the Xmas break very very dubious too

Yeah I mean I feel for anyone who lives in the area (don't you?) - my area has been in tier 3 now (in different guises) for nearly two months, so I know the feeling.

Have loads of mates there but all but one or two of them are going to be coming home for Christmas. Aware that's not going to be a majority but surely a lot of younger people who live in London are going to be travelling back home anyway.

I don't care, like. I wanna see my mates other than on a screen. It's all crap.

Main annoyance for me with it is that not putting London in T3 two weeks ago when Manchester, Leeds etc all were just totally undermined the system in the first place.
 
Yeah I mean I feel for anyone who lives in the area (don't you?) - my area has been in tier 3 now (in different guises) for nearly two months, so I know the feeling.

Have loads of mates there but all but one or two of them are going to be coming home for Christmas. Aware that's not going to be a majority but surely a lot of younger people who live in London are going to be travelling back home anyway.

I don't care, like. I wanna see my mates other than on a screen. It's all crap.

Main annoyance for me with it is that not putting London in T3 two weeks ago when Manchester, Leeds etc all were just totally undermined the system in the first place.

yep - was planning to and had tickets to go home to the unoccupied territories, there will have to be a rethink now
 
yep - was planning to and had tickets to go home to the unoccupied territories, there will have to be a rethink now

FWIW, if you're not ill or showing symptoms, what difference does it make?

An area going from T2 to T3 doesn't automatically make everyone there contagious.

I haven't gone anywhere because I have nowhere to go. Surely it's just about being sensible and things? Obviously if you developed symptoms it'd be different but if anything, the point of T3 is that there's less risk of you developing symptoms if there's not much you can do anyway?
 
What do you suggest as an alternative Tim?

I don't have a solution. Nothing seems to have worked. But this way the economy is suffering horrendously too.

I think personal responsibility was the least bad solution, and it's not a good solution either.

As far as I can see, the covid rates will remain high (pre-vaccine) as long as schools remain open, especially secondary schools. But we can't keep closing schools for long periods, so I'm not sure there is an easy answer until we get a lot more people vaccinated.
 
The tier system is just lockdown by another name. Completely unsustainable all this.

It is but, it has been proven to work to an extent and does at least ensure certain things are kept open in some capacity (gyms etc).

I think it's all ridiculous and the only real way to get going again is to open up fully - because it's got to happen sooner or later - but until the vaccine is mostly rolled out then there has to be something in between I suppose.

Nowhere should be in T3 come the end of Feb if we're getting the vulnerable groups vaccinated by then (taking into account that it takes 3 weeks for both doses). And nowhere should be under any form of lockdown come late spring.
 
It is but, it has been proven to work to an extent and does at least ensure certain things are kept open in some capacity (gyms etc).

I think it's all ridiculous and the only real way to get going again is to open up fully - because it's got to happen sooner or later - but until the vaccine is mostly rolled out then there has to be something in between I suppose.

Nowhere should be in T3 come the end of Feb if we're getting the vulnerable groups vaccinated by then (taking into account that it takes 3 weeks for both doses). And nowhere should be under any form of lockdown come late spring.

I really don't know how long it will take to get vulnerable groups the vaccine. I think it could be nearer the summer than we'd like, but I hope it's quicker than I'm expecting.
 
Yeah I mean I feel for anyone who lives in the area (don't you?) - my area has been in tier 3 now (in different guises) for nearly two months, so I know the feeling.

Have loads of mates there but all but one or two of them are going to be coming home for Christmas. Aware that's not going to be a majority but surely a lot of younger people who live in London are going to be travelling back home anyway.

I don't care, like. I wanna see my mates other than on a screen. It's all crap.

Main annoyance for me with it is that not putting London in T3 two weeks ago when Manchester, Leeds etc all were just totally undermined the system in the first place.
That decision has done it for Hull.
They were put into T3 the other week because of them being in the highest number of new daily cases.
I was hoping they'd drop a tier because like Liverpool the daily infection rates dropped dramatically and are well below national average and would be rewarded with a lessening of restrictions like the Liverpool city region did when their rates dropped. Now because good old London town has been placed in the higher tier they'll moan like stuck pigs if other regions drop a level.
 
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