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Read the post, for Jebus sake!
This: '... Of those 'Covid-linked', how many were directly attributable to 'death by covid', for want of a better phrase?...'
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Read the post, for Jebus sake!
This: '... Of those 'Covid-linked', how many were directly attributable to 'death by covid', for want of a better phrase?...'
arminisgod
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also got much more funding. Instead of £12m we have got £48m
Kenshin
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And that is the issue.
Why does that matter? If they aren't dying then they are either already or on the path to degrading to the point of not being able to function.
It's going out of your way to make that distinction which fuels the doomsday perseptive of all this. Same as people dying of respiratory failure , heart failure to name but a couple.
All well and good saying 'but we don't know if they died with or of'. However at average age of 82.5, does that really matter? They aren't recovering the same way someone half their age would.
Kenshin
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Completely recovered, back to normal and have a working vaccine.
One of the only countries to contain and get rid of the virus they had no Idea existed until it spread back in November.
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At bit on the TTI system.
I did. I still don't know what you're expecting.Read the post, for Jebus sake!
This: '... Of those 'Covid-linked', how many were directly attributable to 'death by covid', for want of a better phrase?...'
Not quite, but you keep peddling this.
Catfish Blues
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Deaths per week have been below average recently, which certainly suggests that some of those who died in the first peak were taken a few months early, rather than a few years early, but those below average deaths are in the order of a few thousand, rather than the tens of thousands needed to balance out the deaths in the peak, hence why I'm saying that the majority who died would still be alive today without COVID.
You'd ( not you personally ) have to be a bit dense to look at the graphs and data to not realise that.
It's assumed, and is almost certainly true, that hospital deaths are down since the peak primarily because people who need treatment aren't going for it. While, recently, hospital deaths have been below average, deaths at home are above average, and by more than the hospital deaths are below average.
So it's almost certain that roughly half the extra people dying at home would, under normal circumstances, have seeked help, been admitted, but still died in hospital. The other half of the excess home deaths would probably, without COVID existing, have seeked help and still be alive today, which is the flipside of lockdown and restrictions.
There are no "100% definites" in this, but there does come a point where something is so likely, that you might as well treat it as being definite
Kenshin
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Ok how how bad is it compared to Europe then? America?
How many cases have they got? According to Google not many
And their cases to population is nothing compared to anything else
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The tier system is doomed to failure and you can only imagine a nationwide lockdown is inevitable and not far away.
You're cherry picking information here. Yes it is average age, but that includes 60 year olds and 100 year olds (if we very simply balance out the 80 year old figure).
And covid-19 hastens and exacerbates other illnesses which wouldn't otherwise cause death, so it's incorrect to say that people were already on the path the death - it's simply not true. It's also completely discounting the as yet not fully understood long term health problems associated with covid-19.
Just for clarity, by persistent presentation of your 82.5 average death, what are you suggesting? Withhold treatment?
Why would you compare it to Europe (wildly different country by country strategies I would add) and America (different approaches by state and wildly different cultural identify).
You should really, if you are going to compare it at all, use China's neighbours - Taiwan, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia for comparison.
And I wouldn't use the cases by population figure as I don't think it's appropriate, not would I use the deaths by population as I explained to @Nymzee earlier.
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