Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[COYBL25]

Also, to the lads asking about footy- we’ve had it confirmed now that our game is cancelled due to the restrictions.

Gutted about that.

Do you know if this apply for kids as well as adults ?

 

[Charro]

Do you know if this apply for kids as well as adults ?

Their exact wording was not open for adult football, so I assume kids are ok?

 

[COYBL25]

Their exact wording was not open for adult football, so I assume kids are ok?

Cheers, my lads team are still waiting on what the FA say

 

[Deleted member 48881]

See, that is obviously what people try to make others feel bad with.

We did all that. Did it for three months in the UK and, I argued at the time, I'd have happily seen it go on longer if it meant in the long-term we got out of this thing quicker.

I don't want people to die. But I also don't want loads of lives ruined by the methods which are being used to 'protect' people.

The public keep getting blamed for not following the rules, but the rules in the last few months are simply illogical and so hap hazard. They hardly make sense. And they're half-measures which don't seem to be achieving much.

We're also seeing spikes in Spain and Italy, who had much harsher lockdowns. There was always going to be a second wave so my main question is why we're not in a better position to deal with it, and why is lockdown the only solution that anybody seems to have.

It's not about doing 'nice things'. I've lost my job this year. It's been crap. Loads of people have and have had no help - that's an issue with the government I know.

This time next year, if entertainment and hospitality industries are ever going to be back, then social distance simply isn't workable, and neither is people having to isolate for two weeks etc.

Life is worth living for the little things - entertainment, being able to go to a match or pop round and see your mates. We're lucky in the western world that we get to do that.

A year of everyone's life will have been wasted come March. Life's precious - which is why the measures are and were needed. But if we've seen no actual real progress by then on other solutions other than everyone needs to keep 2m away from each other and wear a mask if you're stood up inside a pub, then it's pretty grim

Yup. Some endorse 'let's just live, no matter how' It is bollocks for me. Just because you wake up every day, that you can breathe, it doesn't make life liveable. I don't mind being dead in two years just because my govt didn't restrict the social life like hell and it caused my death in the long run, it's OK, as long as I can live as I please in that two full years, I'm OK with that exchange, I am okay with that risk, life is = risk anyway. It literally is.

This last six months taught me that people who actually weren't aware of harsh nature of life, that we are surrounded with deadly/unpleasent situations all around, went berserk. Completely lost head, started acting hysteric and paranoid. I was like ''hello, good morning, you just realised it?'' I was living with it all my life. Risks are everywhere for me. It's a complete chaos. But masses as I observe couldn't take it. I am like Raskolnikov minded, a romantic and a pessimistic if you will, that's why I value my hysteria-free time a lot, because I will continue being a pessimistic even after covid is gone, I know I can be dead in a crazy accident even if I survive this pandemic, so let me just hug my risk-ridden life without media or politicians trying to scare the **** out of me.

Sorry for the personal bit but yeah, people should understand life will never be less risky than between March-June. It will always be like this. Read more Camus

 

[BlueToff]

The risks associated with you hanging out with your colleagues at work versus in the pub 'may' be similar, but the value of you going to work versus going to get blotto'd are completely different, hence why going to work is seen as worth the risk but getting blotto'd is not. I wouldn't have thought it's 'that' hard to figure out. What this whole affair does indicate, however, is that the government don't appear able to identify precisely where outbreaks are occurring (for all the track and trace/signing into places), as you'd have thought if they could, they would shut down those places where indiscretions occur and leave those open where none occur. It seems common throughout all of this that despite there being a load of rules, there's practically no enforcement of any of them, and it just relies on people doing what's right. In which case it's going to be a long winter.

That's not the point. I don't really go to the pub - or haven't been since lockdown. I can manage without 'getting blotto'd'. I do like to go and see my mum and dad. But it looks like I can't for a few weeks unless we sit outside of a pub / cafe.

Whenever I have gone to a pub recently, it's been table service, no standing at the bar, wearing masks etc, sit outside if you can. People have been by and large following the advice/rules.

Unfortunately, they lack logic and - as you say - enforcement, and don't actually seem to be working.

There isn't really any evidence that masks do what they say, but I'm happy to wear one if I go anywhere if there's a chance it helps.

Long-term though none of them are a solution. You can't keep social distancing up because it makes businesses unsustainable. Whether that's a pub or a cafe or a shop. That's without factoring in sports clubs and gig venues etc.

 

[davek]

"Closure of pubs"

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

The mind boggles @Bungle

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He's a bugger for it

 

[BlueToff]

Yup. Some endorse 'let's just live, no matter how' It is bollocks for me. Just because you wake up every day, that you can breathe, it doesn't make life liveable. I don't mind being dead in two years just because my govt didn't restrict the social life like hell and it caused my death in the long run, it's OK, as long as I can live as I please in that two full years, I'm OK with that exchange, I am okay with that risk, life is = risk anyway. It literally is.

This last six months taught me that people who actually weren't aware of harsh nature of life, that we are surrounded with deadly/unpleasent situations all around, went berserk. Completely lost head, started acting hysteric and paranoid. I was like ''hello, good morning, you just realised it?'' I was living with it all my life. Risks are everywhere for me. It's a complete chaos. But masses as I observe couldn't take it. I am like Raskolnikov minded, a romantic and a pessimistic if you will, that's why I value my hysteria-free time a lot, because I will continue being a pessimistic even after covid is gone, I know I can be dead in a crazy accident even if I survive this pandemic, so let me just hug my risk-ridden life without media or politicians trying to scare the **** out of me.

Sorry for the personal bit but yeah, people should understand life will never be less risky than between March-June. It will always be like this. Read more Camus

Obviously that's your choice mate. I suppose the balance is that you have to value other people think differently (not saying you don't).

I think you can follow the guidance (even though I don't see the sense in half of it) and still not live in fear of something. But I could well have the thing and not know and risk passing it onto somebody who is vulnerable.

So I've followed every step as closely as possible. I'm the only one of my mates to have got the app and be using it - even though it didn't work when I tried to scan in to two places (supermarket and a garage) yesterday.

I'm trying, and lots are. I just don't see any actual progress towards a solution.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Well I'm into my cycling (thanks to lockdown) and keeping fit generally. Still haven't been back to the gym for obvious reasons, and it seems more hassle than it's worth.

But entertainment (as a loose term) is literally all their is to life. You are keeping yourself entertained one way or the other, and the rest is work, and then you die. That's life.

You can't really say people need 'more imagination'.

Lop, you should have seen the drunks near me over the weekend. They need it. Honestly.

 

[JLW]

See, that is obviously what people try to make others feel bad with.

We did all that. Did it for three months in the UK and, I argued at the time, I'd have happily seen it go on longer if it meant in the long-term we got out of this thing quicker.

I don't want people to die. But I also don't want loads of lives ruined by the methods which are being used to 'protect' people.

The public keep getting blamed for not following the rules, but the rules in the last few months are simply illogical and so hap hazard. They hardly make sense. And they're half-measures which don't seem to be achieving much.

We're also seeing spikes in Spain and Italy, who had much harsher lockdowns. There was always going to be a second wave so my main question is why we're not in a better position to deal with it, and why is lockdown the only solution that anybody seems to have.

It's not about doing 'nice things'. I've lost my job this year. It's been crap. Loads of people have and have had no help - that's an issue with the government I know.

This time next year, if entertainment and hospitality industries are ever going to be back, then social distance simply isn't workable, and neither is people having to isolate for two weeks etc.

Life is worth living for the little things - entertainment, being able to go to a match or pop round and see your mates. We're lucky in the western world that we get to do that.

A year of everyone's life will have been wasted come March. Life's precious - which is why the measures are and were needed. But if we've seen no actual real progress by then on other solutions other than everyone needs to keep 2m away from each other and wear a mask if you're stood up inside a pub, then it's pretty grim

Spot on mate

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Obviously that's your choice mate. I suppose the balance is that you have to value other people think differently (not saying you don't).

I think you can follow the guidance (even though I don't see the sense in half of it) and still not live in fear of something. But I could well have the thing and not know and risk passing it onto somebody who is vulnerable.

So I've followed every step as closely as possible. I'm the only one of my mates to have got the app and be using it - even though it didn't work when I tried to scan in to two places (supermarket and a garage) yesterday.

I'm trying, and lots are. I just don't see any actual progress towards a solution.

Bolded, I actually can, but the fear I see in people's eyes makes me nervous and sad mate. Media and politicians have a lot to blame for this. They completely ruined the way we live and trust we have between each other. There will be lots of litterateur to come and be written in years ahead IMO, lots of jail time awaits too for several leaders in several places.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

"Closure of pubs"

Think I'd rather have a pint of soup tbh.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

In summary, we might not all agree, but ultimatley we're all utterly fed up of the situation.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Bolded, I actually can, but the fear I see in people's eyes makes me nervous and sad mate. Media and politicians have a lot to blame for this. They completely ruined the way we live and trust we have between each other. There will be lots of litterateur to come and be written in years ahead IMO, lots of jail time awaits too for several leaders in several places.

Bit dramatic

 

[Bruce Wayne]

In summary, we might not all agree, but ultimatley we're all utterly fed up of the situation.

Indeed. Hard to imagine anyone is made up right now, but equally, it's hard to imagine the best approach is to continuously pine for things you can't do right now. Seems smarter to try and find enjoyment where you can. Like Schopenhauer said, the world is kinda what you want it to be.