Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[davek]

Irish Government being advised to lockdown again by their health experts. That's rejected and they'll go for more restrictions.

 

[bebo86]

Premier league's gonna get cancelled I'd say

 

[Nobby Nobbs]

Just seen on BBC 43,000 total deaths in UK and underneath it says deaths for any reason within 28 days of a positive test, does this mean that a large proportion of that headline figure could've been put down as covid deaths
, were there's a good chance that covid was not the primary cause.

 

[Goat]

Just seen on BBC 43,000 total deaths in UK and underneath it says deaths for any reason within 28 days of a positive test, does this mean that a large proportion of that headline figure could've been put down as covid deaths
, were there's a good chance that covid was not the primary cause.

65,000 excess deaths.

So there's more than a good chance that 20,000 people died without a positive test.

 

[roydo]

Just seen on BBC 43,000 total deaths in UK and underneath it says deaths for any reason within 28 days of a positive test, does this mean that a large proportion of that headline figure could've been put down as covid deaths
, were there's a good chance that covid was not the primary cause.

Thats been the case for months. Some point to excess deaths as a better indicator of its impact, others say well in that case, we need to compare deaths over a 2 or 3 year period for a true assessment. Cos like you say, the vast majority of Covid deaths were amongst folk who were pretty poorly/vulnerable anyrate.

 

[Nobby Nobbs]

65,000 excess deaths.

So there's more than a good chance that 20,000 people died without a positive test.

Thats been the case for months. Some point to excess deaths as a better indicator of its impact, others say well in that case, we need to compare deaths over a 2 or 3 year period for a true assessment. Cos like you say, the vast majority of Covid deaths were amongst folk who were pretty poorly/vulnerable anyrate.

Thanks fellas, don't usually post in this thread, just do as I'm told and get on with things, but reading that BBC headline it suggests that someone who's died from a heart attack or stroke or indeed a traffic accident but was tested positive would be put down as a covid death, would that be right.

 

[Goat]

Thanks fellas, don't usually post in this thread, just do as I'm told and get on with things, but reading that BBC headline it suggests that someone who's died from a heart attack or stroke or indeed a traffic accident but was tested positive would be put down as a covid death, would that be right.

No, that's not right.

People haven't died from a traffic accident and they put Cov19 as cause of death.

Unless the reg of the truck was Cov19.

Such a dangerous line of thinking.

 

[Nobby Nobbs]

No, that's not right.

People haven't died from a traffic accident and they put Cov19 as cause of death.

Unless the reg of the truck was Cov19.

Such a dangerous line of thinking.

Not trying to be controversial or contrary, but if you read that BBC headline that's what it suggests.

 

[Goat]

Not trying to be controversial or contrary, but if you read that BBC headline that's what it suggests.

The media only feed people want they want them to believe mate.

Look past what they feed you.

 

[Billy Dean]

 

[BlueStevie35]

Hospital figures - 11 deaths were announced today, down 22 on yesterday and the exact same total as last Monday. 10 deaths were in English hospitals, down 18 on yesterday and the exact same total as last week with all 10 occurring in the past 10 days. The 7 day rolling average remains at 42.71

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 19 deaths were announced today, down 14 on yesterday and up 6 on last Monday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 52.57

There has been no announced data for the 60 day and legacy cut offs as yet

 

[The binman chronicles]

I see Trump is trying to start another massive outbreak of the virus from what he has just said.

 

[Walken]

Might be of interest

Covid Doctors Find a Turning Point in Life-Threatening Cases

When two brothers fell critically ill with Covid-19 around the same time in March, their doctors were baffled. Both were young -- 29 and 31 years old -- and healthy. Yet within days they couldn’t breathe on their own and, tragically, one of them died.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[Kenshin]

Just seen on BBC 43,000 total deaths in UK and underneath it says deaths for any reason within 28 days of a positive test, does this mean that a large proportion of that headline figure could've been put down as covid deaths
, were there's a good chance that covid was not the primary cause.

Respiratory deaths have been down by hundreds based on previous years each week since June.

5 year average deaths have been 1000 less a week since mid august although I haven't seen that stat in the last week or so to see if that has continued.

There has been a balance the other side. That's the information that isn't communicated out, less people are dying in general all of a sudden and for the first time in years , general respiratory deaths are dropping in their hundreds.

There is absolutely a different scenario than the number printed in the media each day. There will be thousands sure that have died before their time and rebalancing the real amount doesn't magically make it disappear.

That's not taking into account other potential deaths that may have increased as a result of covid but not covid related , we can speculate on those all we want from personal ones to simply not receiving treatment. But nothing out there about that to expand upon it .

However when the average age of death is 82, you really have to start looking at why covid is killing people beyond just virus explanation.

That my friend is the answer we won't get for a long time yet.

 

[Tramps_mate]

No, that's not right.

People haven't died from a traffic accident and they put Cov19 as cause of death.

Unless the reg of the truck was Cov19.

Such a dangerous line of thinking.

Yes they have. There's been plenty of incidences.