Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[RetroCat]

However, what if say the expected deaths for U-44's in July 2019 was 20k and the deaths for July 2020 was 22k, but the % of those deaths in July 2020 was enormously built up on COVID related deaths? Is is still fine to let that demographic go back to normal life whilst shielding the Over-65's?

It would be interesting to see that data if/when it exists. I'm guessing traffic deaths would be down for example while domestic violence may be up - lots of variables to consider.

 

[Kenshin]

This is what I've taken from your posts and correct me if I'm wrong (also, the figures I'll use are completely fictitious just to help the explanation):

- You say the average age of deaths is 82 and the largest +expected deaths is the Over-65 range.
- Expected deaths in the Under-44 range is similar to previous years.

So you think we should shield and isolate the 'danger' demographic of the Over-65's whilst we let the other demographics carry on with life as normal because the expected deaths for those ages isn't much different to previous years.

However, what if say the expected deaths for U-44's in July 2019 was 20k and the deaths for July 2020 was 22k, but the % of those deaths in July 2020 was enormously built up on COVID related deaths? Is is still fine to let that demographic go back to normal life whilst shielding the Over-65's?

Just because the overall expected deaths hasn't differed much between years doesn't mean it's okay for that demographic to be left alone.

Unless you know what that % is and you've used it to back up your points. Not really sure as you rarely post any data to support your posts.

One flaw with your argument.

According to the official stats, it's nowhere near that month for those age groups in a single month.

It's like 39 per one lol

 

[Nymzee]

Yeh me too and that data might already be out there but I'm not really one for COVID data hunting myself. I just think it's too simplistic of an approach to view the top line of expected deaths per month without delving into what they're built on.

 

[Nymzee]

One flaw with your argument.

According to the official stats, it's nowhere near that month for those age groups in a single month.

It's like 39 per one lol

Firstly, I wasn't making an argument I was describing the viewpoint I get from reading your posts and asking you to confirm/correct.

Secondly, I quite literally say in the first sentence the numbers etc. are fictitious and only there to show an example.

However as you didn't see any of that I'll just assume I've stumped you.

 

[Kenshin]

Firstly, I wasn't making an argument I was describing the viewpoint I get from reading your posts and asking you to confirm/correct.

Secondly, I quite literally say in the first sentence the numbers etc. are fictitious and only there to show an example.

However as you didn't see any of that I'll just assume I've stumped you.

I was simply making a point.

Yes we should shield over 65s and let the rest of the demographics as normal with things like masks and social distancing in place.

It has to happen , otherwise there is far more damage long term.

Because the thing with the demographics is, they are the ones who want to go back to normal. They are the ones getting infected right now. As much as you can cry guidelines , rules etc. The ones who are getting sick or at least testing positive are those who don't want to shield, to hide away. They want normality.

So why not give it to them?

You can still stay at home. You can still sheild, just like anyone else can. You aren't forced out the house. Just let those who do want to go out and have normality do that. If the age of infections goes high then that's where the real issue is.

However allowing the ones whos chance of dying are minimal to go to work, have fun, see people etc the risk of that is much smaller than locking down or heavily restricting everything. As long as you put that message out there at the risk of mixing with elderly people can have , then let people have that normality 3 months from now.

Attention can be focused on those more at risk and money can be better spent protecting them.

 

[YoboCopter]

Pretty sure the second wave of the Spanish flu was deadlier in younger hosts than it was during the first wave. I see no reason why odd mutations like this won't happen down the line with covid, although mind you it's just me putting 2 and 2 together to make 5

Can only work with what youve got

cross that bridge when/if we come to it

atm its hardly killing youngsters is it

 

[daza_1973]

Pretty sure the second wave of the Spanish flu was deadlier in younger hosts than it was during the first wave. I see no reason why odd mutations like this won't happen down the line with covid, although mind you it's just me putting 2 and 2 together to make 5

All four waves of Spanish flu hit the 20-40 year old age demographic hardest.

 

[Brendan Janus]

It is terrible for Middlesbrough, Hartlepool, Liverpool & Warrington, feel for those cities & towns.

 

[zzr45]

It is terrible for Middlesbrough, Hartlepool, Liverpool & Warrington, feel for those cities & towns.

No-one has ever felt sorry for Hartlepool. Please don’t lie on this forum.

 

[Brendan Janus]

No-one has ever felt sorry for Hartlepool. Please don’t lie on this forum.

I am taking the piss out of Coronavirus, biggest load of shoite ever !

 

[Brendan Janus]

In Maghull today, no one died from Covid, but four died from cancer !!

 

[Walken]

In Maghull today, no one died from Covid, but four died from cancer !!

Which one of these diseases is more transmissible?

 

[davek]

Like your plan of shutting everything down, decimating the economy for decades, resulting in lowered funding of the NHS for decades is somehow a great idea ....

*Slow hand clap

"5th richest country in the world..."

 

[Brendan Janus]

Which one of these diseases is more transmissible?

Influenza !!

 

[Jebus_lives]

Influenza !!

I think I speak for us all when I say that your contribution to this thread is invaluable.