Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[whiteshadow]

It’s not a guess, it’s a sample, which is upscaled to a population. Not a perfect measure, but not guesswork. There is somewhere between “testing everybody” and “guessing”.

I mean, it’s not as trusted a source as that Anomaly loon you were quoting yesterday, but not much is.

Lol

Given I rarely post in the politics threads these days , it's weird that you would mention the opinions of someone else?

It's off topic like but attributing someone else's opinions to me is just silly right?

I notice you don't refer to the main point of his post, because he's spot on and you have no argument.

 

[Abraders]

Just because expected deaths for U-44's might not be much different (haven't checked if this is actually correct), without knowing the makeup of those numbers, A.K.A. what % of those deaths are due to COVID, how can you dismiss it as something we should just let pass around that demographic without a care in the world?

Let alone the potential long term repercussions of having hosted covid 19

 

[Nymzee]

Let alone the potential long term repercussions of having hosted covid 19

Yeh think people focus only on a death statistic and not all the people with long term respiratory problems (which may actually kill them further down the line).

 

[Kenshin]

I agree. The government are a joke in how they're handling this but that doesn't mean people shouldn't follow the guidelines.

The thing I don't undersand, is if you just don't like the government or if you just want to undermine the guidelines so you don't have to follow them.

The actual guidelines, if followed, will help, probably not enough but still far better than to do nothing.

And I agree on that.

I've posted many times how I follow guidelines , don't go places ,wear masks everywhere I'm meant to including my workplace now.

I downloaded the app for my phone because it works better when more people have it.

These guidelines should be in place. I had an issue with masks coming out when they did sure but long term these should be in place.

I just believe there has to be a better balance of measures for everything to actually work as intended. Half arsed attempts even with these measures mean nothing and won't change a thing.

 

[Kenshin]

I notice you don't refer to the main point of his post, because he's spot on and you have no argument.

No because i answered it already, to you lol

I'd just he repeating myself surely?

 

[zzr45]

I wonder if Bill Gates could have come up with a way of enslaving us all that wasn’t such a boring, drawn out process?

 

[davmaher]

What sort of business are you in?

Scare-mongering.

 

[Kenshin]

Just because expected deaths for U-44's might not be much different (haven't checked if this is actually correct), without knowing the makeup of those numbers, A.K.A. what % of those deaths are due to COVID, how can you dismiss it as something we should just let pass around that demographic without a care in the world?

Did you read my reply?

I'm very much for protecting those who may die from the virus. I literally posted that to you.

But maybe passing around the demographics is inevitable rather than preventable ? Without a vaccine then people will keep getting it, you can't change that.

 

[Amw79]

Lol

Given I rarely post in the politics threads these days , it's weird that you would mention the opinions of someone else?

It's off topic like but attributing someone else's opinions to me is just silly right?

No, but I find it bizzare that you’re quickly calling one official source “guessing”, when it’s clearly just a sample which has then been extrapolated (standard stuff when dealing with population size numbers), when only yesterday you were citing a Facebook loon as a good and unbiased source.

 

[whiteshadow]

No because i answered it already, to you lol

I'd just he repeating myself surely?

Fair point. lol

 

[Jebus_lives]

The thing is.

They haven't tested everyone for antibodies , they are guessing.

Until they test everyone, saying a percentage is meaningless because it's based on a guess .

 

[Moomin]

I wonder if Bill Gates could have come up with a way of enslaving us all that wasn’t such a boring, drawn out process?

According to @Kenshin mate he is busy making mosquito into a bio weapon to spread viruse.

 

[Amw79]

I think “either you test everybody for the correct number or you guess” is somewhat of a false dichotomy.

 

[Nymzee]

Did you read my reply?

I'm very much for protecting those who may die from the virus. I literally posted that to you.

But maybe passing around the demographics is inevitable rather than preventable ? Without a vaccine then people will keep getting it, you can't change that.

This is what I've taken from your posts and correct me if I'm wrong (also, the figures I'll use are completely fictitious just to help the explanation):

- You say the average age of deaths is 82 and the largest +expected deaths is the Over-65 range.
- Expected deaths in the Under-44 range is similar to previous years.

So you think we should shield and isolate the 'danger' demographic of the Over-65's whilst we let the other demographics carry on with life as normal because the expected deaths for those ages isn't much different to previous years.

However, what if say the expected deaths for U-44's in July 2019 was 20k and the deaths for July 2020 was 22k, but the % of those deaths in July 2020 was enormously built up on COVID related deaths? Is is still fine to let that demographic go back to normal life whilst shielding the Over-65's?

Just because the overall expected deaths hasn't differed much between years doesn't mean it's okay for that demographic to be left alone.

Unless you know what that % is and you've used it to back up your points. Not really sure as you rarely post any data to support your posts.

 

[Abraders]

Pretty sure the second wave of the Spanish flu was deadlier in younger hosts than it was during the first wave. I see no reason why odd mutations like this won't happen down the line with covid, although mind you it's just me putting 2 and 2 together to make 5